|
|
Post by BOBinIN on Dec 2, 2020 13:18:40 GMT -5
Guys I need your help finding this powder... it's "Vihtavuori #N120". Years ago I bought a 2 pound container but now it's practically gone and I can't find a source for it. I'm looking for a one pound or two pound container. It also comes in an eight pounder but sadly I don't think I would live that long as that is a LOT of powder. If you know of a source I'd be grateful to have the info. Thanks for reading this and good luck to you, BOB.
|
|
|
|
Post by deadeer on Dec 2, 2020 13:27:58 GMT -5
Guys I need your help finding this powder... it's "Vihtavuori #N120". Years ago I bought a 2 pound container but now it's practically gone and I can't find a source for it. I'm looking for a one pound or two pound container. It also comes in an eight pounder but sadly I don't think I would live that long as that is a LOT of powder. If you know of a source I'd be grateful to have the info. Thanks for reading this and good luck to you, BOB. Good luck. Thats about impossible to find, and expensive. I just seen 4# somewhere. Oh yeah, in my cabinet! If it's for a smokeless mz, you can use H4198 as a very similar equivalent. |
|
|
|
Post by HuntMeister on Dec 2, 2020 13:58:53 GMT -5
I will be needing to add some of the VV N120 to my stash as well, down to less than a pound now. If anyone finds it please keep me in mind and I will do the same. Maybe a group buy if it makes sense...
|
|
|
|
Post by HuntMeister on Dec 2, 2020 14:02:06 GMT -5
Guys I need your help finding this powder... it's "Vihtavuori #N120". Years ago I bought a 2 pound container but now it's practically gone and I can't find a source for it. I'm looking for a one pound or two pound container. It also comes in an eight pounder but sadly I don't think I would live that long as that is a LOT of powder. If you know of a source I'd be grateful to have the info. Thanks for reading this and good luck to you, BOB. Good luck. Thats about impossible to find, and expensive. I just seen 4# somewhere. Oh yeah, in my cabinet! If it's for a smokeless mz, you can use H4198 as a very similar equivalent. I have not experimented much with H4198. My smokeless ML likes 60 grains of VV N120. In your experience, how does H4198 compare weight wise to VV N120? Would the charges be similar or does H4198 tend to rum higher or lower in weight to VV N120? |
|
|
|
Post by deadeer on Dec 2, 2020 14:12:59 GMT -5
Good luck. Thats about impossible to find, and expensive. I just seen 4# somewhere. Oh yeah, in my cabinet! If it's for a smokeless mz, you can use H4198 as a very similar equivalent. I have not experimented much with H4198. My smokeless ML likes 60 grains of VV N120. In your experience, how does H4198 compare weight wise to VV N120? Would the charges be similar or does H4198 tend to rum higher or lower in weight to VV N120? H4198 is a little slower in burn rate iirc. You got the 50cal SMI? In my Sav 50, 60gr n120 and 65gr H4198 was similar speed, about 2300 with a 300gr bullet. Shooting 70gr H4198 with 300gr BO or 325gr FTX, was at 2500fps. Have since went to PacNor 45cal's. |
|
|
|
Post by HuntMeister on Dec 2, 2020 15:14:01 GMT -5
I have not experimented much with H4198. My smokeless ML likes 60 grains of VV N120. In your experience, how does H4198 compare weight wise to VV N120? Would the charges be similar or does H4198 tend to rum higher or lower in weight to VV N120? H4198 is a little slower in burn rate iirc. You got the 50cal SMI? In my Sav 50, 60gr n120 and 65gr H4198 was similar speed, about 2300 with a 300gr bullet. Shooting 70gr H4198 with 300gr BO or 325gr FTX, was at 2500fps. Have since went to PacNor 45cal's. Yep, SMI 50 cal. I have a pound of H4198 but the VV N120 works so well I have not been motivated to tinker with the H4198. |
|
|
|
Post by deadeer on Dec 2, 2020 16:10:08 GMT -5
H4198 is a little slower in burn rate iirc. You got the 50cal SMI? In my Sav 50, 60gr n120 and 65gr H4198 was similar speed, about 2300 with a 300gr bullet. Shooting 70gr H4198 with 300gr BO or 325gr FTX, was at 2500fps. Have since went to PacNor 45cal's. Yep, SMI 50 cal. I have a pound of H4198 but the VV N120 works so well I have not been motivated to tinker with the H4198. Use it, no worries. |
|
|
|
Post by esshup on Dec 2, 2020 17:22:55 GMT -5
I use H4198 in my .45 cal Savage. 70 grains (supposedly to be a hot load and possible blown sabots, as a FYI) pushes a 195g Barnes 40 cal bullet at 2750 fps. Deadeers load of VV 120 pushes that bullet at 2804 fps in my gun.
I ALWAYS buy more powder than what I think I will need, that is why I have a supply of powder now. I'm like Deadeer, I have 2# containers of the VV powders.
I'm with him, go ahead and use the H-4198. IMR also makes the 4198, I have NOT had good luck with the IMR version.
|
|
|
|
Post by beermaker on Dec 2, 2020 19:42:40 GMT -5
I've always used IMR 4759 in my Savage. I've never had a problem with powder, but I had some primers that absolutely would not work.
I'm still thinking about selling my Savage. It hasn't been in the woods in at least five years.
|
|
|
|
Post by deadeer on Dec 2, 2020 21:28:53 GMT -5
I've always used IMR 4759 in my Savage. I've never had a problem with powder, but I had some primers that absolutely would not work. I'm still thinking about selling my Savage. It hasn't been in the woods in at least five years. Unfortunately, IMR 4759 is no longer made! |
|
|
|
Post by M4Madness on Dec 4, 2020 17:43:29 GMT -5
IMR also makes the 4198, I have NOT had good luck with the IMR version. I have a CVA Apex .45-70 converted into a .45 muzzleloader. I'm using 56 grains of IMR 4198 and a CCI large rifle magnum primer to push a 200-grain Hornady SST .40 bullet in a sabot. I can't remember the velocity, but it seems like it was right at 2500 FPS. It puts 'em in the bullseye at 100 yards, so I'm happy with it. |
|
|
|
Post by esshup on Dec 4, 2020 21:20:17 GMT -5
IMR also makes the 4198, I have NOT had good luck with the IMR version. I have a CVA Apex .45-70 converted into a .45 muzzleloader. I'm using 56 grains of IMR 4198 and a CCI large rifle magnum primer to push a 200-grain Hornady SST .40 bullet in a sabot. I can't remember the velocity, but it seems like it was right at 2500 FPS. It puts 'em in the bullseye at 100 yards, so I'm happy with it. That's all that matters. My group size shrunk by about 6" going from IMR to H powder in my .45 cal Savage ML. |
|
