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Post by grey squirrel on Nov 30, 2020 21:50:43 GMT -5
Fooling a deer's nose or fooling a turkey's eyesight? Just thinking about this today while in my blind and thought it'd make a good discussion. I have my opinion but would like to hear others...
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Post by Pinoc on Nov 30, 2020 21:58:15 GMT -5
That’s a hard one. I have always been amazed at how a Turkey can actually mount or flog an obvious fake decoy but can spot you blink 50 yards away.
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Post by buckert on Nov 30, 2020 22:15:27 GMT -5
Ha! Great thought!!! I was going with deer smell for a second but then started thinking about scenarios in which I’ve been busted by turkeys. I don’t have an answer
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Post by titanium700 on Nov 30, 2020 23:36:01 GMT -5
Tie!!
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Post by esshup on Dec 1, 2020 0:02:20 GMT -5
Deers nose. I can tell you that Ive been busted by their nose at 200+ yds. I can't say that for a turkey, not when I'm sitting on the ground like the dang deer.....
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Post by deadeer on Dec 1, 2020 2:27:57 GMT -5
Deers nose. I can tell you that Ive been busted by their nose at 200+ yds. I can't say that for a turkey, not when I'm sitting on the ground like the dang deer..... I agree. You can hide from a turkey in a blind to fool their eyes. Nothing fools a deers nose! |
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Post by HuntMeister on Dec 1, 2020 7:09:06 GMT -5
Deers nose. I can tell you that Ive been busted by their nose at 200+ yds. I can't say that for a turkey, not when I'm sitting on the ground like the dang deer..... I too will go with the deer's nose. During a summer depredation hunt I got busted by an old doe when she got downwind of me at a ranged 500 yards in a bean field. Stuck that nose up in the air and immediately turned around and calmly walked back into the safety of the woods. |
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 1, 2020 7:27:12 GMT -5
Deer, not even close. Turkeys are dumb at least in my area. Hate those devils with feathers. Food plot seed  s....lol |
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Post by sculver7 on Dec 1, 2020 7:34:09 GMT -5
I would say without a doubt, it is harder to fool a deer's nose. Last year on a reserved turkey hunt on public land, I had a hen come in to a group of dekes not 15 yards from me. She hung around for an hour and fifteen minutes and had no clue I was there. Sometimes it seems like deer can smell you even when you're downwind of them. HAHAHA
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Post by buckert on Dec 1, 2020 7:40:37 GMT -5
I agree that deer the deers nose is more powerful from a long distance and “penetrates” obstructions. Also the turkey blind is also a good point for tricking the turkey. But without a blind I would argue that is almost more difficult to kill a turkey that’s within range.
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 1, 2020 9:39:15 GMT -5
Mature buck's 100%. IMO
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2020 9:51:09 GMT -5
Deer nose. Deer can smell your foot steps almost 2 days later if there is no rain or snow. Hands down the deer nose.
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Post by jman46151 on Dec 1, 2020 9:55:55 GMT -5
Deer, not even close. Turkeys are dumb at least in my area. Hate those devils with feathers. Food plot seed s....lol I think turkeys are all instinct. A turkey won't see something then decide it should move to get a better look like a deer will try to get downwind of you if it thinks something is screwy. Turkeys just run at the first sign of something out of place where a deer might stomp and try to get you to react. |
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Post by grey squirrel on Dec 1, 2020 14:58:30 GMT -5
I am going to agree in saying that fooling a deers nose is harder than fooling a turkey's eyesight. I can control my camo, ghillie suit or blind and its on me if I move and mess up.
On the other hand, I cannot control the wind. I try to be as scent free as possible and play the wind with about 3 different setups to choose from but it never fails the wind will shift and there is nothing I can do about that.
I've always heard that if a turkey had the sense of smell that a deer does, we would never kill a turkey and that if a deer had the eyesight of a turkey, we would never kill a deer. I am torn between my love for turkey hunting and my love for deer hunting. It seems that I can pick a different favorite depending on what time of the year it is if you ask me. Either way, I am fortunate and blessed to have the health to do what I enjoy. Also, fortunate to have the wife and kids that I do who put up with me being gone for long periods of time each year.
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Post by Ahawkeye on Dec 1, 2020 17:52:37 GMT -5
Deer would be harder to fool in my opinion.
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Post by firstwd on Dec 1, 2020 19:03:02 GMT -5
The obvious answer is quite clear, whichever one you are trying to kill at the time.
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Post by bullseye69 on Dec 1, 2020 21:48:16 GMT -5
I will say the turkey.
Doesn't matter what environment the bird is in unlike deer.
Here is my reasoning.
A deer in the reduction zone don't get to excited about body deoderant or your laundry detergent. They smell that smell emminatting from homes all day long.
Now deer out west where I have hunted, smell isn't as big a deal as what they see. These are deer out in the wide open with no trees but just coulees to hide out in. I sat in the back of a truck smoking a cigar waiting for my buddy to come back from hunting. I had 4 mule deer grazing 5 yards from the truck, he should have hunted by the truck . Lol
So I will say not being seen is harder or more important to both deer and turkeys.
One more point, if either is wanting to breed it doesn't matter what they see or smell.
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Post by Sasquatch on Dec 1, 2020 22:01:31 GMT -5
I am tempted to call it a draw. By "fool" I assume you mean "defeat," which implies that the turkey can potentially see you if you move and the deer is downwind, and you are testing these defenses in a typical hunting scenario. ( Not at 500 yards with a rifle or something ) If you are upwind from a deer in common hunting range you are basically toast. If you are within common hunting range of a turkey and move at the wrong time you are screwed. So it's close to a draw, if you must directly challenge those defenses.
Yet, I guess I give a slight edge to the deer's nose being harder to beat. There is a chance, however small, that a turkey might not see you. The chance that a deer won't wind you is so minute as to be virtually impossible. Shade, camo, brush-- nothing that might help with the turkey's eyes will stop that honker.
Deer by a nose. So to speak.
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Post by span870 on Dec 2, 2020 5:31:49 GMT -5
You're not going to fool either. You may think you are doing something but whatever you think you're doing isn't happening. Deer you hunt downwind, not really fooling it. Scent isn't getting to it. Scent control clothing doesn't work. It just doesn't. Way to many studies show the microbes are way smaller than the clothing has the ability to block. That deer that doesn't smell you never caught your scent. You can minimize but you aren't fooling anything.
Turkey. Sure you can hide in a blind but that's not really "fooling". Heck if I stay home no turkeys see me either. Camo can sway the outcome but I have still have numerous spot me for no known reason.
I'd lean towards turkey being easier to "fool" with camo that may give you a slight time advantage. You just aren't going to hide your scent from a deer. Either they don't smell you or aren't concerned with the smell.
Now what happens after you fail on either. A corn goats will stand around and blow and stomp and carry on for who knows how long. A turkey ain't sticking around. The old saying goes, a deer will see man and think it's a tree. A turkey will see a tree and think it's a man.
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Post by saltydog on Dec 2, 2020 6:15:15 GMT -5
I've always said "That if a turkey could smell you would never kill them"
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