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Post by onebentarrow on Nov 5, 2020 21:13:28 GMT -5
I was reading on an other form and it was stated that the indians on the reservations vote democratic. Which got me to thinking. How can they vote? Technically there reservations are not United states territory by treaty. They do not have to follow our hunting and fishing season or bag limits. They can possess eagles, Hawk and owl feathers which is agenst federal law they have their own police force with their own laws different then the state. So if they are not required to follow US laws how do they vote in US elections? Saying the election affects them doesn't fly because the outcome effects chinanes,Russia's japan,s people too but they can not vote. Let me get this streight. I DO NOT have a problem with an American native living off reservations as a registered US citizen voting in an US election but if they live on the reservations and it is not US territory by treaty how is that legal? I know American natives have gotten the shaft in the past but what is right is right and wrong is wrong. Hypothetically if you eliminated all the votes from reservation natives in Minnesota and Arizona would that change the electoral votes of the state? If some one can find the ruling on this voting by american natives I would love to see it. I may not agree with it but I can except it.
Very Seriously
Onebentarrow
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Post by mgderf on Nov 5, 2020 21:37:54 GMT -5
I don't care if they live under a bridge. ANYONE born inside the boundaries of the United States of America is an American citizen, and as such, are entitled to vote in general elections. Local elections may or may not be a different story. I am not versed in the laws of reservations, but a citizen is a citizen. Why do you want to disenfranchise ANYONE?
I don't like that anyone pays tribute to the Democratic party, but they have the right to their own ideals as American citizens.
"I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend with my life, your right to say it."
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Post by onebentarrow on Nov 5, 2020 22:59:22 GMT -5
I don't care if they live under a bridge. ANYONE born inside the boundaries of the United States of America is an American citizen, and as such, are entitled to vote in general elections. Local elections may or may not be a different story. I am not versed in the laws of reservations, but a citizen is a citizen. Why do you want to disenfranchise ANYONE? I don't like that anyone pays tribute to the Democratic party, but they have the right to their own ideals as American citizens. "I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend with my life, your right to say it." I am not trying to disenfranchise any one that is a United states citizen the question was if there reservations are not considered us territory are they actually a US citizen and if so why. That is why I ask for the legal reason why they vote. I do not care who they vote for that was a hypothetical situation and probably the wrong one to use in this situation. My bad. If I offended you I apologize as I stated I was thinking and it got me to wondering so I ask the question here hoping someone with more knowledge than I could give me the answer.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2020 5:03:49 GMT -5
I don't care if they live under a bridge. ANYONE born inside the boundaries of the United States of America is an American citizen, and as such, are entitled to vote in general elections. Local elections may or may not be a different story. I am not versed in the laws of reservations, but a citizen is a citizen. Why do you want to disenfranchise ANYONE? I don't like that anyone pays tribute to the Democratic party, but they have the right to their own ideals as American citizens. "I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend with my life, your right to say it." I am not trying to disenfranchise any one that is a United states citizen the question was if there reservations are not considered us territory are they actually a US citizen and if so why. That is why I ask for the legal reason why they vote. I do not care who they vote for that was a hypothetical situation and probably the wrong one to use in this situation. My bad. If I offended you I apologize as I stated I was thinking and it got me to wondering so I ask the question here hoping someone with more knowledge than I could give me the answer. When the dead and illegals vote, it`s already past too late to try to fix the system. And some states, if not all, are saying they`ll accept and count ANY and ALL mail-in votes, whether they postmark is smudged or even if there`s no postmark at all. The fix is in my friend. You know the democratic motto: Vote early and vote often.
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Post by greghopper on Nov 6, 2020 6:31:23 GMT -5
I don't care if they live under a bridge. ANYONE born inside the boundaries of the United States of America is an American citizen, and as such, are entitled to vote in general elections. Local elections may or may not be a different story. I am not versed in the laws of reservations, but a citizen is a citizen. Why do you want to disenfranchise ANYONE? I don't like that anyone pays tribute to the Democratic party, but they have the right to their own ideals as American citizens. "I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend with my life, your right to say it." I am not trying to disenfranchise any one that is a United states citizen the question was if there reservations are not considered us territory are they actually a US citizen and if so why. That is why I ask for the legal reason why they vote. I do not care who they vote for that was a hypothetical situation and probably the wrong one to use in this situation. My bad. If I offended you I apologize as I stated I was thinking and it got me to wondering so I ask the question here hoping someone with more knowledge than I could give me the answer. Goggle..... “are american indians us citizens” your answers are there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2020 7:29:44 GMT -5
Here's your answer. Snyder Act of 1924
The Snyder Act of 1924 admitted Native Americans born in the U.S. to full U.S. citizenship. Though the Fifteenth Amendment, passed in 1870, granted all U.S. citizens the right to vote regardless of race, it wasn't until the Snyder Act that Native Americans could enjoy the rights granted by this amendment.
In 1948, the Arizona Supreme Court struck down a provision of its state constitution that kept Indians from voting. Other states eventually followed suit. Even with the lawful right to vote in every state, Native Americans suffered from the same mechanisms and strategies, such as poll taxes, literacy tests, fraud and intimidation, that kept African Americans from exercising that right. In 1965, with passage of the Voting Rights Act and subsequent legislation in 1970, 1975, and 1982, many other voting protections were reaffirmed and strengthened.
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Post by budd on Nov 6, 2020 8:36:25 GMT -5
Minnesota only has 1 closed reservation with a population of 5,873, the rest of the reservations are open. I live on a open reservation (Leach Lake). Even though Im white american and bought land from a private individual, I still had to have approval from the tribe to build.The Chippewa national forest (federal) is partially on the reservation, I also live within the Chippewa National Forest on my private land. In open reservation they must follow some of our laws, but they also have some of their own when it comes to hunting and fishing. Closed reservations do have their own police force and laws. My wife works on the closed reservation in a government medical clinic.
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Post by onebentarrow on Nov 6, 2020 9:35:05 GMT -5
I am not trying to disenfranchise any one that is a United states citizen the question was if there reservations are not considered us territory are they actually a US citizen and if so why. That is why I ask for the legal reason why they vote. I do not care who they vote for that was a hypothetical situation and probably the wrong one to use in this situation. My bad. If I offended you I apologize as I stated I was thinking and it got me to wondering so I ask the question here hoping someone with more knowledge than I could give me the answer. Goggle..... “are american indians us citizens” your answers are there. Will do. Thank you
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Post by onebentarrow on Nov 6, 2020 10:05:40 GMT -5
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