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Post by Decatur on Nov 3, 2006 11:30:17 GMT -5
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Post by hunter480 on Nov 3, 2006 12:12:15 GMT -5
Good information-thanks decatur.
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Post by omegahunter on Mar 10, 2007 13:51:29 GMT -5
The T/C Scout was in 1:20 the first year of production and then went to 1:38. Full-caliber lead conicals would not stabilize in the 1:20 barrels. I found this firsthand and it baffled a blackpowder specialist with 22+ years of experience. He suggested switching to sabots (he resisted this change as long as he could) and the problem was solved. I had the most trouble with this little carbine than any muzzleloader I have had since. I blamed the two breech vents getting too much moisture directly in the path of the cap igniting the powder. After showing such persistence in search of accuracy, he then invited me to give him a hand in his muzzleloader shop. That lasted for about 12 years and then I got married and had to cut back. I then had a baby and didn't get to help at all last year. Hope that changes next year!
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Post by triplese7en on Mar 11, 2007 21:40:33 GMT -5
What grain size conicals did you try in that 1-20" twist Scout?
What lubes were on them?
Did they have a gas check?
Did you try them with a wonderwad or two?
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Post by JohnSmiles on Mar 14, 2007 22:12:03 GMT -5
Great site.
No wonder heavier bullets are not overly great shooters in my muzzy.
1:48 twist
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Post by parson on Mar 15, 2007 8:04:23 GMT -5
The 1:48 seems to be an attempt to find a "middle of the road" twist to handle all types of bullets. My son & I each have a CVA kit Mt. rifle. His shoots conicals just fine, but mine never has. It's a great round ball gun though. Anyway, it's a lot of fun playing around with them to find the right combination, doesn't cost a lot to experiment either.
parson.
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Post by weedhopper on Mar 15, 2007 11:37:25 GMT -5
I absolutely HATE the 1in48 twist barrels just for the reasons you state, Parson.
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Post by omegahunter on Mar 15, 2007 14:21:28 GMT -5
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I tried the 350 Maxihunter first, 370 Maxiball, 385 Great Plains and the 250 REAL. Zero success with any as far as grouping at 100 yards (not a single keyhole, only groups you could just keep on a 12" x 12" target) with 90 grains Goex FFg. The guy I ended up helping out during hunting seasons was a tried and true blackpowder and pure lead only shooter until insurance problems with stocking blackpowder and the explosion of sabots on the marketplace convinced him to go more modern. I finally switched to a T/C Break-O-Way sabot and a 300 grain XTP and got a tackdriver. I stopped experimentation there, as I got what I wanted.
The 1:38 twist of the later Scouts, early Thunderhawk and Firehawk (they later went to 1:28 twist) was about the best compromise between the lead conicals and the sabots. After the Scout, I bought a Thunderhawk and it shot the Maxihunters just fine. What a hole those things made! We found that after a few years the Thawks weren't shooting the Maxihunters as well as they had and found out the twist had changed to 1:28.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Mar 16, 2007 6:36:55 GMT -5
Thanks D. Good stuff.
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