DNR investigation #2
Jul 7, 2020 15:49:10 GMT -5
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Post by onebentarrow on Jul 7, 2020 15:49:10 GMT -5
Warning. This post may ramble and have some thoughts not associated with the vedio.
1st this incident is disgusting from memy points the group of men had no right to accost the victon #1 unless the victim #1 had accosted some one else first. Then and only then the men had the right to stop it and hold said victon #1 for police not continue to beat said victim #1.
#2 the language used is appalling and derogatory and should never be used in this manner. That being said what happened to "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me" (more on this later) the words in the vedio along with stupid,idot,moron and such are normaly used when some one is trying to degrade a person and show " their supior intellect" when they have no facts to back it up.
#3 this vedio shows how the actions of a fue can influence the thoughts of many to assume all people of a race are like minded.
I know this to be true because as much as I try to be non racist or predigest it is hard to judge a person open mindedly when they fit a category of what we see on the news,cops or have witnessed in person. This does not just mean race either as clothing/dress, Tattoos,hair styles and such also contribute.
Now to the sticks and stones. There are some words that should never be used to degrade any one for any reason. Stupid and idot fall in this category a long with some racial slurs that because of political correctness I can not print even tho they are not being used to slight anyone. Even tho I feel they should not be used they are only words.yes they are derogatory,dispitefull,disrespectfull and most times show the interlectcial IQ of the user. I only know of one word when spoken to an individual can be grounds for a criminal prosecution. Yet ther are meny that are used to describe other races that are just as derogatory but not viable for prosecution. How is this possible? Banning (criminalising) a word associated with racism does not stop racism. Racism is evil. Sometimes perpetrated for the gain of power or money, some times by fools some times by people that want to FEEL superior to others sometimes by politicians. If we can ever got rid of the evil we should be able to short circuit raceism.
Now for a question with hypothetical situation.
If I have a back door neighbor that is a _____ (fill in the blank) and he and I get into an argument and I say (some one should hang your but from a tree) being an opinion,not a threat or statement I am going to do it. Just that I think you are a low life and I would not be upset if you did not exist.
If he is a white dude are there any ramifications for criminal prosecution?
If he was black did I just commit a hate crime? Did I just become racist even tho the statement had nothing to do with him being black.
If he had been Mexican do I fall into the same category as if he was black or the same as the white dude or a totally different category?
To me this situation shows how we have to tip tow around one race because they might be offended but not the other even tho the opinion was the same for both.
This brings me to the offended part. EVERY ONE is offended some time. I am offended when I am called a murderer because I hunt. I am offended when I am called a racist because I am white. I am offended when I am called a white supremacist because I am conservative and donot believe in big government.
The point being is we cannot legislate all offensive verbal connotations in to oblivion or no one could say or do any thing with out offending some one.
With the constution and the bill of rights we all have human rights but I have not found any where in there where it said we have the right to not be offended.
I as an American should have a right to my opinion and you yours what I should not have is the right for my opinion to squelch your right to your opinion and vive versa.
These are my opinions and thoughts. If I have offended you it was not my intention but I will hold these opinions until an intellectual conversation has shown me the Airs in my thought process and thin I will chance my opinion.
I hope this thread provokes thought and intelligent conversation about a very serious and touchy situation here in the states at this time.
Thank you for reading this post.
Thank you Woody for giving me a platform where I can Express my thoughts and opinions and if some one gets this thread deleted I understand
Onebentarrow
1st this incident is disgusting from memy points the group of men had no right to accost the victon #1 unless the victim #1 had accosted some one else first. Then and only then the men had the right to stop it and hold said victon #1 for police not continue to beat said victim #1.
#2 the language used is appalling and derogatory and should never be used in this manner. That being said what happened to "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me" (more on this later) the words in the vedio along with stupid,idot,moron and such are normaly used when some one is trying to degrade a person and show " their supior intellect" when they have no facts to back it up.
#3 this vedio shows how the actions of a fue can influence the thoughts of many to assume all people of a race are like minded.
I know this to be true because as much as I try to be non racist or predigest it is hard to judge a person open mindedly when they fit a category of what we see on the news,cops or have witnessed in person. This does not just mean race either as clothing/dress, Tattoos,hair styles and such also contribute.
Now to the sticks and stones. There are some words that should never be used to degrade any one for any reason. Stupid and idot fall in this category a long with some racial slurs that because of political correctness I can not print even tho they are not being used to slight anyone. Even tho I feel they should not be used they are only words.yes they are derogatory,dispitefull,disrespectfull and most times show the interlectcial IQ of the user. I only know of one word when spoken to an individual can be grounds for a criminal prosecution. Yet ther are meny that are used to describe other races that are just as derogatory but not viable for prosecution. How is this possible? Banning (criminalising) a word associated with racism does not stop racism. Racism is evil. Sometimes perpetrated for the gain of power or money, some times by fools some times by people that want to FEEL superior to others sometimes by politicians. If we can ever got rid of the evil we should be able to short circuit raceism.
Now for a question with hypothetical situation.
If I have a back door neighbor that is a _____ (fill in the blank) and he and I get into an argument and I say (some one should hang your but from a tree) being an opinion,not a threat or statement I am going to do it. Just that I think you are a low life and I would not be upset if you did not exist.
If he is a white dude are there any ramifications for criminal prosecution?
If he was black did I just commit a hate crime? Did I just become racist even tho the statement had nothing to do with him being black.
If he had been Mexican do I fall into the same category as if he was black or the same as the white dude or a totally different category?
To me this situation shows how we have to tip tow around one race because they might be offended but not the other even tho the opinion was the same for both.
This brings me to the offended part. EVERY ONE is offended some time. I am offended when I am called a murderer because I hunt. I am offended when I am called a racist because I am white. I am offended when I am called a white supremacist because I am conservative and donot believe in big government.
The point being is we cannot legislate all offensive verbal connotations in to oblivion or no one could say or do any thing with out offending some one.
With the constution and the bill of rights we all have human rights but I have not found any where in there where it said we have the right to not be offended.
I as an American should have a right to my opinion and you yours what I should not have is the right for my opinion to squelch your right to your opinion and vive versa.
These are my opinions and thoughts. If I have offended you it was not my intention but I will hold these opinions until an intellectual conversation has shown me the Airs in my thought process and thin I will chance my opinion.
I hope this thread provokes thought and intelligent conversation about a very serious and touchy situation here in the states at this time.
Thank you for reading this post.
Thank you Woody for giving me a platform where I can Express my thoughts and opinions and if some one gets this thread deleted I understand
Onebentarrow