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Post by harmonist34 on Nov 25, 2019 21:07:55 GMT -5
So after plenty of The Hunting Public episodes, I got inspired to do more public land hunting. I've put in a fair amount of time without much to show for it, though I certainly know the spots better. One frustration that I've found is locating what looks like a really good spot...only to come upon someone's ladder stand in the area. Certainly don't begrudge anyone a chance at hunting success on public land, but the "staking your territory" aspect of fixed stands is something I'm still trying to figure out how to deal with. |
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Nov 25, 2019 21:38:13 GMT -5
If you’re in the area before they are. Hunt it. Just because they pre-hang a stand doesn’t mean it’s their area. You have just as much right to it as they do.
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Post by raydon on Nov 25, 2019 21:45:50 GMT -5
My proper etiquette is, first come first serve. How would I feel if I did my due diligence by scouting and hanging at what I believed to be my prime location. Then opening day I show up to find another stand within 50 yards of mine. I would consider it rude and pushy. If I come across a good spot and notice a blind or tree stand, I just find another good spot. It's called hunting, and hunting is hard.
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Post by elmo on Nov 25, 2019 22:19:51 GMT -5
I agree with the first come first serve, but a guy could hang stands all around the area and essentially lock up a whole block of public land. Possibly only hunting some stands 2 to 4 times per year. Doesn’t seem very fair to the rest of the tax paying public. Therefore I vote to hang and hunt if you are there first.
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Post by js2397 on Nov 25, 2019 22:29:27 GMT -5
Call them and see what they say.
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Post by duff on Nov 26, 2019 4:05:54 GMT -5
Is this a set up? Stand on public that doesn't get stolen?
I have a stand or 3 on public land. I dont mind if anyone hunts it...if they can find it. Just dont steal it
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Post by duff on Nov 26, 2019 4:11:10 GMT -5
The idea a stand may equal ownership of an area is silly. Stand are cheap.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Nov 26, 2019 7:33:43 GMT -5
I give people their space and appreciate the same consideration when shown towards me. If I think they'll be hunting it, I won't set up nearby. If the stand doesn't appear to be used frequently, or if I think it's only there for gun season/etc., I may hunt nearby.
I also don't leave stands on public. I either use a climber or sit on the ground. If I think it's a good enough area to warrant dragging in a fixed stand, the last thing I want to do is broadcast to anyone walking through that this is the spot. Some people are lazy and/or don't know enough to find their own spots, so they'll intentionally set up near someone else because they think that person must have it figured out.
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Post by omegahunter on Nov 26, 2019 8:51:18 GMT -5
Choice #2 is called Conversion.
IC 35-43-4-3
Conversion
Sec. 3. (a) A person who knowingly or intentionally exerts unauthorized control over property of another person commits criminal conversion, a Class A misdemeanor.
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Post by medic22 on Nov 26, 2019 9:26:58 GMT -5
This is a subject that I find has a lot of variables. Im very much a "follow the rules" type, so If I know you hung your stand prior to the legally allowed date, I consider that forfeiture of any claim to the area.
If they hang a stand september 15th and I figure out that its for gun season, ill hunt the area in early archery. Same deal if I figure out someone hunts weekends only.
I wont hunt their stand and I will give them some room as to limit any chance I screw the area up for them.
Where I hunt, chances are ill shake my head and silently ridicule them for poor stand placement and go to a productive area.
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Post by jman46151 on Nov 26, 2019 10:15:08 GMT -5
In one area where I hunt there was a stand that had not been sat in for two seasons. I know because it had the same limb that had fallen on it. So I just hunted like it didn't even exist. In that same area, a stand will appear the week before gun season so I just stay away from there. I definitely wouldn't use someone's stand though, it just seems weird.
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Post by ifd179 on Nov 26, 2019 11:01:49 GMT -5
I hunt an area that 2 guys hunt like its private property. I've tried to get there early and they will just sit on top of me or very close by. Funny thing is that I went on Sunday and they were getting out of there truck, so I told them I'd go to the other side. They saw nothing, I killed a nice doe at about 830.
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Post by harmonist34 on Nov 26, 2019 14:10:07 GMT -5
Choice #2 is called Conversion. IC 35-43-4-3 Conversion Sec. 3. (a) A person who knowingly or intentionally exerts unauthorized control over property of another person commits criminal conversion, a Class A misdemeanor. Interesting. Though some other laws also come into play: pinews.co/2oCIsir“Indiana law requires each deer blind placed on DNR property must be legibly marked with the owner’s name, address and telephone number or be marked with the individual’s customer identification number, which is issued by the DNR. Leaving your tree stand on state property after Jan. 10 is a violation of Indiana Administrative Code. Any tree stand or ground blind placed on DNR property must be portable and may be left overnight only from noon Sept. 15 to Jan. 10. Indiana code also prohibits any fastener used in a tree blind or a tree or pole climber that penetrates a tree more than a half-inch because of the damage it can cause in the tree.” |
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Post by omegahunter on Nov 26, 2019 14:16:00 GMT -5
Choice #2 is called Conversion. IC 35-43-4-3 Conversion Sec. 3. (a) A person who knowingly or intentionally exerts unauthorized control over property of another person commits criminal conversion, a Class A misdemeanor. Interesting. Though some other laws also come into play: pinews.co/2oCIsir“Indiana law requires each deer blind placed on DNR property must be legibly marked with the owner’s name, address and telephone number or be marked with the individual’s customer identification number, which is issued by the DNR. Leaving your tree stand on state property after Jan. 10 is a violation of Indiana Administrative Code. Any tree stand or ground blind placed on DNR property must be portable and may be left overnight only from noon Sept. 15 to Jan. 10. Indiana code also prohibits any fastener used in a tree blind or a tree or pole climber that penetrates a tree more than a half-inch because of the damage it can cause in the tree.” What has any of that to do with sitting in another person's stand without permission? You just call DNR if you find stands outside of the allowed timeframe on public property or not marked as required. You don't get to sit in them or take them. |
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Post by beermaker on Nov 26, 2019 16:41:44 GMT -5
There are many different ways to look at this scenario. Yes, public land is PUBLIC land. However, if I KNOWLINGLY set up near another stand, who wins if we both show up on the same day and decide to stand our respective ground? Probably the deer. I'd rather stay home than get up in the morning and drive to hunt an area when I KNOW there is a possibility that someone else may be there. That's assuming that I set my stand KNOWING that someone else is already set up in the area. If I'm the first one there and someone else shows up, that's the UNKNOWN chance I take.
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Post by duff on Nov 26, 2019 17:18:19 GMT -5
worst part about public land is the public! If you put up a stand you are rolling the dice that someone will hunt out of it, steal it or vandalize it. As said above, I would take option 1 over the other 2 every day of deer season. If you want to have someone arrested for hunting out of your stand good luck. Best idea is to not put a stand up and be flexible.
Best example of this was the Turkey Run reduction hunt I did about 10-yrs ago. It was a mad house of flashlight fights, whistles, yells etc...
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Post by esshup on Nov 27, 2019 18:34:16 GMT -5
So after plenty of The Hunting Public episodes, I got inspired to do more public land hunting. I've put in a fair amount of time without much to show for it, though I certainly know the spots better. One frustration that I've found is locating what looks like a really good spot...only to come upon someone's ladder stand in the area. Certainly don't begrudge anyone a chance at hunting success on public land, but the "staking your territory" aspect of fixed stands is something I'm still trying to figure out how to deal with. We hunt public land in another state. There is a family that lives right next to this property and they think the property is solely theirs to hunt. We have had natural blinds that we've made kicked apart the same night, had fold up chairs moved, and this year they put a ladder stand in a tree that my buddy has hunted next to for the past 20 years. On public ground any stand that is attached to a tree has to be removed every night and re-hung the next day. They left it there and never once came to hunt out of it. There is a "no motorized vehicle" rule for this property - they think nothing of driving their 4 wheelers on it. Trees have been dropped over the trail to act as a gate, they have cut them off the trail with a chainsaw. After the first day of not hunting where he usually hunts, my buddy said screw it and set up his folding chair right in front of the ladder stand. |
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