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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 6, 2019 7:56:36 GMT -5
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Post by greghopper on Jan 6, 2019 8:11:57 GMT -5
Link won't let me read.... says I reached 7 views need to pay.
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Jan 6, 2019 8:36:01 GMT -5
I just don’t think they’ll get enough people on board to get what they want. Sounds like a good idea to me. Portion of sales tax on outdoor and sporting equipment goes back to help preserve and update the state owned areas. Too many other agendas out there to get enough people to agree to that in my opinion.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 6, 2019 8:44:05 GMT -5
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 6, 2019 9:16:11 GMT -5
I just don’t think they’ll get enough people on board to get what they want. Sounds like a good idea to me. Portion of sales tax on outdoor and sporting equipment goes back to help preserve and update the state owned areas. Too many other agendas out there to get enough people to agree to that in my opinion. This would generate more matching funds from the Feds... |
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Post by treetop on Jan 6, 2019 10:15:26 GMT -5
It may be a good idea but it’s still a number shuffle the money is already in the states hand now so they put it towards the parks were is it going to be taken away from.
They should just put a user fee on the park and let the park keep it you already have to pay if your camping in the campground no people won’t like it and yes we do own it already but the state doesn’t make money they take it and then gives it back and say what a good job were doing
So if your paying to camp why not to use the trails hunt nature watch hunt mushrooms and the likes
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 6, 2019 14:57:55 GMT -5
Jack Corpuz says...
Further looking into it I agree..
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Jan 6, 2019 16:44:48 GMT -5
Jack definitely knows what he is talking about. No surprise as to what he says. Anything for their benefit.
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Post by hatchetjack on Jan 6, 2019 17:50:15 GMT -5
I can actually see benefits for ALL Indiana citizens. However, the legislature won't move funds from the General Fund to the DNR which should end the discussion. Also, hunters and fishermen shouldn't be paying to let the Hoosier Environmental Council or the Sierra Club party in state properties. How about user fees on the tree huggers and hikers and bikers to use those state recreation areas? DNR fees on public access should be self-supporting.
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Jan 6, 2019 18:51:05 GMT -5
I’ve always thought there should be some sort of a user fee for the hikers, bikers, bird watchers, etc. They should have to pay just like the hunters and fisherman do.
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Post by treetop on Jan 7, 2019 5:56:04 GMT -5
I’ve always thought there should be some sort of a user fee for the hikers, bikers, bird watchers, etc. They should have to pay just like the hunters and fisherman do. Just a question were do you pay to hunt around here you sign in and hunt than check out when done the only time I payed was for camping |
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Post by firstwd on Jan 7, 2019 8:08:54 GMT -5
I’ve always thought there should be some sort of a user fee for the hikers, bikers, bird watchers, etc. They should have to pay just like the hunters and fisherman do. Just a question were do you pay to hunt around here you sign in and hunt than check out when done the only time I payed was for camping Every time you buy a license. Honestly, that is the simplest answer. Require the bird watchers, hikers, bikers, or whatever to hold either a valid hunting or fishing license to use the property they are on. I know it would be an extremely unpopular idea with a lot of people but it would generate the most revenue. |
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Jan 7, 2019 8:37:40 GMT -5
I’ve always thought there should be some sort of a user fee for the hikers, bikers, bird watchers, etc. They should have to pay just like the hunters and fisherman do. Just a question were do you pay to hunt around here you sign in and hunt than check out when done the only time I payed was for camping Exactly what firstwd said. |
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Post by jman46151 on Jan 7, 2019 9:15:32 GMT -5
I’ve always thought there should be some sort of a user fee for the hikers, bikers, bird watchers, etc. They should have to pay just like the hunters and fisherman do. Just a question were do you pay to hunt around here you sign in and hunt than check out when done the only time I payed was for camping As a hunter or fisherman you pay every time you buy equipment. Pittman–Robertson Act for hunting and the Dingell–Johnson Act for fishing. Non-consumptive users (hikers, bikers, birdwatchers, etc.) don't pay any extra taxes on their gear. |
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Post by treetop on Jan 7, 2019 16:38:52 GMT -5
Just a question were do you pay to hunt around here you sign in and hunt than check out when done the only time I payed was for camping Every time you buy a license. Honestly, that is the simplest answer. Require the bird watchers, hikers, bikers, or whatever to hold either a valid hunting or fishing license to use the property they are on. I know it would be an extremely unpopular idea with a lot of people but it would generate the most revenue. I should of made that question clear sorry I agree we buy tags but my question is were to do you pay to hunt on public ground there may be areas but around here it’s free if you have your tags. If you go up a few post I said what your saying everyone should be charged a flat fee to hike bird watch bike whatever. One way and this is how they did this up north were my cabin is you buy a daily camping permit you put it on your dash if the CO sees your car he can walk right up to it and see your tags with out you there now it’s only for camping you can fish and hike but not camp They could do the same for the parks you could go to the office or buy one on line, this way everybody pays. Yes if you live close you could still walk in but I’d say most people drive there |
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Jan 7, 2019 18:29:03 GMT -5
Every time you buy a license. Honestly, that is the simplest answer. Require the bird watchers, hikers, bikers, or whatever to hold either a valid hunting or fishing license to use the property they are on. I know it would be an extremely unpopular idea with a lot of people but it would generate the most revenue. I should of made that question clear sorry I agree we buy tags but my question is were to do you pay to hunt on public ground there may be areas but around here it’s free if you have your tags. If you go up a few post I said what your saying everyone should be charged a flat fee to hike bird watch bike whatever. One way and this is how they did this up north were my cabin is you buy a daily camping permit you put it on your dash if the CO sees your car he can walk right up to it and see your tags with out you there now it’s only for camping you can fish and hike but not camp They could do the same for the parks you could go to the office or buy one on line, this way everybody pays. Yes if you live close you could still walk in but I’d say most people drive there Not saying you pay to hunt. We pay to help maintain the forests, lakes, etc by buying a license. We get federal funds for each license sold to help with all that. The bikers, hikers, etc use these public grounds just as much or more then hunters and fishers, yet pay nothing to help with the maintenance and such. |
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Post by treetop on Jan 7, 2019 18:37:25 GMT -5
I’ve always thought there should be some sort of a user fee for the hikers, bikers, bird watchers, etc. They should have to pay just like the hunters and fisherman do. [/quoteI I miss understood what you were saying I thought you were paying to hunt at the parks and I’d never heard of that |
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Post by jbird on Jan 10, 2019 11:56:57 GMT -5
I have no issue with an access fee to public areas. OR - they some how require a license to hike, camp or some sort of other outdoor activity on public ground. The thing is...how will that money be used? The legislators will fight to add it to the general fund so they can then "appropriate as needed", which translates into spend on broken human services programs or further support the desires of the special interests.
The money made thru the natural resources needs to STAY in the natural resources. I think the money should stay in the same facility they where taken in from.
I don't want to make this political, but our government is too interested in continuing to "feed the bears" and make society more and more dependent on the government then it is to say "No - take care of yourselves" and put money into things like conservation. turns out people in cities vote....deer and squirrels and trees don't!
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Post by firstwd on Jan 10, 2019 12:43:26 GMT -5
I have no issue with an access fee to public areas. OR - they some how require a license to hike, camp or some sort of other outdoor activity on public ground. The thing is...how will that money be used? The legislators will fight to add it to the general fund so they can then "appropriate as needed", which translates into spend on broken human services programs or further support the desires of the special interests. The money made thru the natural resources needs to STAY in the natural resources. I think the money should stay in the same facility they where taken in from. I don't want to make this political, but our government is too interested in continuing to "feed the bears" and make society more and more dependent on the government then it is to say "No - take care of yourselves" and put money into things like conservation. turns out people in cities vote....deer and squirrels and trees don't! Each attended property charges a fee for entrance, camping, pools, and other types of activities. Everybody who uses those facilities pays including all who purchase licenses. Every dollar of those fees should remain within that property. License sales generates Federally collected money that has designed purpose to promote and expanding public access. This is the reason I say everyone using public lands should be required to buy either a hunting or fishing license. If the state was willing to enact a PR type state tax on outdoor equipment to include everything hikers, bikers, bird watchers, campers and the like used AND every dime was set aside for the sole purpose of expanding and maintaining areas where such activities can thrive, I would completely support it. |
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