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Post by blackmouthcur on Dec 31, 2018 11:28:08 GMT -5
True, you’re probably right, I’m just saying there’s a first for everything. I’m sure Jakob Creutzfeldt felt the same way. Not trying to be a butt, but "The disease was first described by German neurologist Hans Gerhard Creutzfeldt in 1920 and shortly afterward by Alfons Maria Jakob, giving it the name Creutzfeldt–Jakob." - per wikipedia I stand corrected, just thought it would’ve been named after the first one who contracted it, thx for the info.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Dec 31, 2018 12:49:56 GMT -5
When you guys say "CWD area" is this a state with past confirmed CWD cases or is this a Core CWD Surveillance Area where there is active confirmed cases? I assuming the "CWD area" is in or a Western state. Basically, a county that's shaded gray on that first link in this thread.
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Post by schall53 on Dec 31, 2018 17:36:17 GMT -5
When you guys say "CWD area" is this a state with past confirmed CWD cases or is this a Core CWD Surveillance Area where there is active confirmed cases? I assuming the "CWD area" is in or a Western state. Yes, the area we hunt in Wyoming was one of the first countys in the state to have confermed cases.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 31, 2018 18:29:56 GMT -5
Have any idea when last confirmed case was there?
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Post by jdebose on Dec 31, 2018 19:25:37 GMT -5
Once it’s in an area can it go away?
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Post by schall53 on Jan 2, 2019 12:25:24 GMT -5
Have any idea when last confirmed case was there? No I haven't heard, but the areas are expanding so i assume they are being found on a regular basis.
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 3, 2019 20:39:09 GMT -5
CWD is a scam IMO. No human has ever contracted it that i'm aware of , which is puzzling if it's such a concern. Just a Excuse to further reduce our deer herd. Pretty sure I read that it's not able to pass species according to scientist.
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Post by welder on Jan 3, 2019 20:47:05 GMT -5
CWD is a scam IMO. No human has ever contracted it that i'm aware of , which is puzzling if it's such a concern. Just a Excuse to further reduce our deer herd. Pretty sure I read that it's not able to pass species according to scientist. I have thought the same thing at times. CWD isn't something that just popped up, it has been around longer than most of the members of this forum. I don't have actual facts to back this up, but to my knowledge, I don't think there has EVER been a case transferred to human?
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Post by greghopper on Jan 3, 2019 20:53:34 GMT -5
CWD is a scam IMO. No human has ever contracted it that i'm aware of , which is puzzling if it's such a concern. Just a Excuse to further reduce our deer herd. Pretty sure I read that it's not able to pass species according to scientist. Explain what you think the DNR has to GAIN by further reducing the deer herd ? Couldn't they just reduce the herd without CWD? I think so.. BTW..... SCAM is a harsh word!
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 3, 2019 21:59:55 GMT -5
CWD is a scam IMO. No human has ever contracted it that i'm aware of , which is puzzling if it's such a concern. Just a Excuse to further reduce our deer herd. Pretty sure I read that it's not able to pass species according to scientist. Explain what you think the DNR has to GAIN by further reducing the deer herd ? Couldn't they just reduce the herd without CWD? I think so.. Look at Michigan. Their DNR has used it to kill off thousands of deer with no human ever contracting the disease. And I believe not a single deer has even died from CWD as any deer that tested positive they euthanized. Why kill of herds? Scientific studies have shown it doesn't cross spieces. Seems more logical to let nature run its course.
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 3, 2019 22:03:35 GMT -5
With all the mule deer , elk and deer from areas where positive tests have came from and noone has died or gotten sick??? And this is a major concern?
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Jan 3, 2019 22:12:14 GMT -5
Meateater podcast #70 is a good listen for anyone wanting a basic rundown of the disease. Also Hunttalk Radio #93.
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 3, 2019 22:22:44 GMT -5
Meateater podcast #70 is a good listen for anyone wanting a basic rundown of the disease. Also Hunttalk Radio #93. James Kroll has several and Ted Nugent has 1 or 2 as well. Ted knows his stuff on CWD. Kinda surprised me.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 3, 2019 22:24:12 GMT -5
Explain what you think the DNR has to GAIN by further reducing the deer herd ? Couldn't they just reduce the herd without CWD? I think so.. Look at Michigan. Their DNR has used it to kill off thousands of deer with no human ever contracting the disease. And I believe not a single deer has even died from CWD as any deer that tested positive they euthanized. Why kill of herds? Scientific studies have shown it doesn't cross spieces. Seems more logical to let nature run its course. Like I said what has the DNR got to gain by SCAMMING the public? Why are other states doing what you view as a scam? What do you think should be done ? NOTHING just let nature run its course?(never been a state do that) I hope not... I will back ever how the hired folks see fit to do.Thats what they are being paid to do!
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Post by greghopper on Jan 3, 2019 22:31:39 GMT -5
Meateater podcast #70 is a good listen for anyone wanting a basic rundown of the disease. Also Hunttalk Radio #93. James Kroll has several and Ted Nugent has 1 or 2 as well. Ted knows his stuff on CWD. Kinda surprised me. Just follow the money your see why James Kroll says what he does Ted is a joke by many biologists standards and Lindsay Thomas Jr seems to think the same. Yes lots of conflicting data and thoughts on CWD for sure, but best to err on side of caution IMO
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 3, 2019 22:37:20 GMT -5
Scientific studies have proved it can't jump from deer to humans is what I read so what is the the concern?? It can be fatal to older deer?? Lol. Indiana has that covered. Avg age of deer killed in Indiana is under 2.5.. Lol
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Post by greghopper on Jan 3, 2019 22:45:29 GMT -5
So Indiana should do what's never been done and do nothing? lol
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 3, 2019 23:02:45 GMT -5
CWD was 1st found in Colorado Elk herd over 30 yrs ago. Today Colorado's Elk herd is healthy and thriving. So even though these prions exist in the elks environment it is not by itself killing them off. Yes CWD needs studied more but simply killing of thousands of animals by inducing fear is irresponsible IMO. To me EHD is a bigger concern.
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 3, 2019 23:06:18 GMT -5
So Indiana should do what's never been done and do nothing? lol No they should try to keep infected deer out. Thats a no brainer. But mass killing of deer where a infected deer pops up is ridiculous. And to be honest the disease is most likely already here and been here for sometime. Deer and humans have survived so far eehh...
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Post by greghopper on Jan 3, 2019 23:11:34 GMT -5
Would you eat or let your family members eat a CWD positive Deer?
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