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Post by jimstc on Sept 25, 2018 14:57:18 GMT -5
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Post by js2397 on Sept 25, 2018 19:47:50 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 21:13:16 GMT -5
I'm not a big fan of trump but I couldnt care less what the UN has to say. The UN has morphed into an anti Israel committee, I have no respect for the UN.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 21:15:53 GMT -5
And other than his statement of "hes the best" his address was pretty decent.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 6:47:39 GMT -5
I`m not a "trump guy". In fact, in the 2016 election, and for the first time in my adult life, I voted for every race except president of the United States. I certainly wasn`t going to cast my vote for clinton, but I couldn`t bring myself to vote for Trump either. Fast forward to today, and as I`ve watched the so called media constantly attack Trump, as I`ve watched libs have meltdown after meltdown and obstruct to the point of hurting the country, and not care, I`ve come to have an appreciation for some of the things this President has done. Far right doesn`t come even close to describing my views. I`m far right of far right, and I`m sick and tired of those who bash America, who bash this President, and who embrace the liberal agenda that is literally tearing this Republic apart at the seams. So no, I reject your notion that this is "embarrassing" for America.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 6:59:35 GMT -5
Did you hear the fools laughing!
He who sits in the heavens laughs; the Lord holds them in derision. Then he will speak to them in his wrath, and terrify them in his fury, saying, “As for me, I have set my King on Zion, my holy hill.”
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 7:14:10 GMT -5
Did you hear the fools laughing! He who sits in the heavens laughs; the Lord holds them in derision. Then he will speak to them in his wrath, and terrify them in his fury, saying, “As for me, I have set my King on Zion, my holy hill.” Fools being the key point there. I wish we would get the united nations OUT of America, and get America OUT of the united nations. The united nations is an absolutely evil organization. They`re anti-Israel, anti-America, their "blue helmets" are responsible for an untold number of rapes of women and children, and countless other atrocities. And I don`t care what the rest of the world does, says, or thinks. America is a sovereign nation, and libs in this country, alongside anti-America nations wish to undermine our sovereignty, and bring us down. I will resist that effort by whatever means necessary.
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Post by greghopper on Sept 26, 2018 7:18:10 GMT -5
I`m not a "trump guy". In fact, in the 2016 election, and for the first time in my adult life, I voted for every race except president of the United States. I certainly wasn`t going to cast my vote for clinton, but I couldn`t bring myself to vote for Trump either. Fast forward to today, and as I`ve watched the so called media constantly attack Trump, as I`ve watched libs have meltdown after meltdown and obstruct to the point of hurting the country, and not care, I`ve come to have an appreciation for some of the things this President has done. Far right doesn`t come even close to describing my views. I`m far right of far right, and I`m sick and tired of those who bash America, who bash this President, and who embrace the liberal agenda that is literally tearing this Republic apart at the seams. So no, I reject your notion that this is "embarrassing" for America. ^^^^^^
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Post by greghopper on Sept 26, 2018 7:19:35 GMT -5
Did you hear the fools laughing! He who sits in the heavens laughs; the Lord holds them in derision. Then he will speak to them in his wrath, and terrify them in his fury, saying, “As for me, I have set my King on Zion, my holy hill.” Fools being the key point there. I wish we would get the united nations OUT of America, and get America OUT of the united nations. The united nations is an absolutely evil organization. They`re anti-Israel, anti-America, their "blue helmets" are responsible for an untold number of rapes of women and children, and countless other atrocities. And I don`t care what the rest of the world does, says, or thinks. America is a sovereign nation, and libs in this country, alongside anti-America nations wish to undermine our sovereignty, and bring us down. I will resist that effort by whatever means necessary. Preach it.......
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Post by jimstc on Sept 26, 2018 7:26:34 GMT -5
The audience is not my point. My point is his disconnect from reality. Also his uninformed opinion of his administration's accomplishments as compared all of those who have come before him. That is blatant arrogance with large dose of no grasp of history. His approval rating and the Democrat's significant lead in the mid term polls are a direct result of his misguided and misinformed policies from immigration to global trade. The stock market is at an all time high in spite of him. Not because of him. Yet again he takes credit for it. Wrong again. The markets don't take him seriously because of his ludicrous behavior. Come on, a Republican President who has, on Twitter or other venues, attacked his own party, his cabinet and the NRA. My opinion is you have to be from another planet not to be ashamed of his behavior. The liberal press is being fed opportunities by what he says, does and has done. He is his worst enemy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 7:30:15 GMT -5
The audience is not my point. My point is his disconnect from reality. Also his uninformed opinion of his administration's accomplishments as compared all of those who have come before him. That is blatant arrogance with large dose of no grasp of history. His approval rating and the Democrat's significant lead in the mid term polls are a direct result of his misguided and misinformed policies from immigration to global trade. The stock market is at an all time high in spite of him. Not because of him. Yet again he takes credit for it. Wrong again. The markets don't take him seriously because of his ludicrous behavior. Come on, a Republican President who has, on Twitter or other venues, attacked his own party, his cabinet and the NRA. My opinion is you have to be from another planet not to be ashamed of his behavior. The liberal press is being fed opportunities by what he says, does and has done. He is his worst enemy. Are the polls that say demon-crats have leads in the midterms the same polls that said clinton was a lock to win the White House? Nevertheless, I`ll take this President, and nearly anyone else, everyday, over the anti-America loons who make up the democratic party. Demon-crats are purely, domestic terrorists.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 9:23:29 GMT -5
The audience is not my point. My point is his disconnect from reality. Also his uninformed opinion of his administration's accomplishments as compared all of those who have come before him. That is blatant arrogance with large dose of no grasp of history. His approval rating and the Democrat's significant lead in the mid term polls are a direct result of his misguided and misinformed policies from immigration to global trade. The stock market is at an all time high in spite of him. Not because of him. Yet again he takes credit for it. Wrong again. The markets don't take him seriously because of his ludicrous behavior. Come on, a Republican President who has, on Twitter or other venues, attacked his own party, his cabinet and the NRA. My opinion is you have to be from another planet not to be ashamed of his behavior. The liberal press is being fed opportunities by what he says, does and has done. He is his worst enemy. Again not a fan of his but his polls are pretty consistant with many other presidents at this point in his term. Also I read a poll a couple days ago that actually said republicans were 1 point ahead of democrats in favorability, this is the first time since 2012. His policies for the most part I feel have been great, however I dont think he should have access to twitter and he should open his mouth far less often.
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Post by soinguy28 on Sept 26, 2018 10:02:47 GMT -5
Sure President Trump may not act like we think he should as President. He may not say the things he should as President. But the people didn't elect him to "act" Presidential. We have had a lot of actors in the past. He was elected to get results. And I have to say so far I like the results. Yep he has fallen short in a few areas, but I like the direction we are going. It's always been Economy First with me. We get that right and then we can move on to the other issues. Being a Libertarian, I'm am never happy after a Presidential election. But the election of President Trump, has definantly proved there is an incredible amount of corruption on both the Democrat and Republican sides in Washington. Just my humble opinion.
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Post by greghopper on Sept 26, 2018 12:13:00 GMT -5
The polls don't or ever will VOTE..... don't drink the kool-aid is my suggestion!
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Post by jimstc on Sept 26, 2018 12:14:00 GMT -5
Guys in the interest of full and fair disclosure, I start these threads every so often to get some spirited debate and conversations started. Normally it has been Greg and me butting heads and we have kept it civil all but once. Woody threw an unsportsmanlike conduct flag on us and we cleaned it up. I truly enjoy engaging all of you in these conversations and respect your positions. Nonetheless, I will continue to play the devil's advocate as that is interesting to me as it prompts more discussion. That must be the former lawyer in me. I agree with everyone's position on the U.N. What a waste and far left institution for whom I have no respect. Lastly, I am really glad to see some new participants. Welcome.
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Post by jimstc on Sept 26, 2018 12:20:47 GMT -5
The polls don't or ever will VOTE..... don't drink the kool-aid is my suggestion! I don't even like kool aid. LOL! In any event there are numerous polls that confirm my statement. Basically the majority of the voters want a change in Congress and a change in the direction of this country. Go figure. Seems like we are heading in the right direction notwithstanding the behavior of Trump, past and present.
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Post by hugedogleg on Sept 26, 2018 13:31:49 GMT -5
He is president for exactly the reasons that people hate him. He is not politically correct. He doesn't play by the rules. He is not a status quo guy. He doesn't care about feelings. He has goals and he his Hell bent on achieving them. His goals are America First and that's refreshing. What ever happens you can bet he will work hard every day to fix the things he feels are wrong with our country. And so far in my opinion he's doing great.
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Post by hugedogleg on Sept 26, 2018 13:32:25 GMT -5
The polls don't or ever will VOTE..... don't drink the kool-aid is my suggestion! I don't even like kool aid. LOL! In any event there are numerous polls that confirm my statement. Basically the majority of the voters want a change in Congress and a change in the direction of this country. Go figure. Seems like we are heading in the right direction notwithstanding the behavior of Trump, past and present. Hillary was winning in most polls.
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Post by jjas on Sept 26, 2018 13:52:07 GMT -5
He is president for exactly the reasons that people hate him. He is not politically correct. He doesn't play by the rules. He is not a status quo guy. He doesn't care about feelings. He has goals and he his Hell bent on achieving them. His goals are America First and that's refreshing. What ever happens you can bet he will work hard every day to fix the things he feels are wrong with our country. And so far in my opinion he's doing great. The above IS why Trump won. People are sick and tired of the same old Washington BS and Trump doesn't play by their rules. Do I always agree with him? Nope... But....it sure has been fun watching the Republicans, Democrats and the media periodically p*ss themselves over the latest thing that Trump did on any given day.
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Post by jimstc on Sept 26, 2018 14:20:37 GMT -5
I don't even like kool aid. LOL! In any event there are numerous polls that confirm my statement. Basically the majority of the voters want a change in Congress and a change in the direction of this country. Go figure. Seems like we are heading in the right direction notwithstanding the behavior of Trump, past and present. Hillary was winning in most polls. Polls are information and are not infallible. But when you see Donnelly leading Braun in a red state such as IN you should take note. Trump's histrionics are the only reason for that. He has alienated the women vote. No one needs an explanation of that. He has alienated the Independent vote. Whether you like Trump or not is irrelevant. It is how his childish behavior is going to affect the Republican party's ability to retain control of Congress. His goals are America first? Really? Is that why Ford is taking a $1 billion charge to earnings because of the tariffs? Is that why the largest American producer of nails is on the verge of bankruptcy? Is that why every electronic item you buy will cost more? I can go on and on but he is hurting the consumers in this country and their employers. BS if that is America first. It is bully Trump first. Always has been.....
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