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Post by featherduster on May 8, 2018 12:18:04 GMT -5
I am a big fan of any form of motorized racing and I support the sport of sprint car racing by attending races, all others I watch on TV. This year I have noticed the very poor attendance at the NASCAR races with one in particular that being Bristol, a track that someone had to die in order for you to find an available seat. Could this be the handwriting on the wall. speedsport.com/nascar/monster-nascar-cup/report-france-family-investigating-sale-nascar/
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Post by greghopper on May 8, 2018 12:36:13 GMT -5
This will actually be a good thing if a group of investors buy this. Investors don't buy something then intend on loosing money.... they will be trying to gain a return for there investment inturn improve what they have.
Roumors is Comcast maybe the buyer.... that will give all the Big money TV rights.
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Post by Sasquatch on May 8, 2018 13:35:53 GMT -5
This will actually be a good thing if a group of investors buy this. Investors don't buy something then intend on loosing money.... they will be trying to gain a return for there investment inturn improve what they have. Roumors is Comcast maybe the buyer.... that will give all the Big money TV rights. Yes, motivated investors would probably be a good thing. They would move quickly to address problems. Let's just hope a bunch of snowflakes don't by it. All the patriotic aspects and any references to the Almighty will be the first things to go, followed quickly by what remains of the fans. I wonder if they'll change the rules to make the races less boring? ( don't know much about it myself but I have heard others say there were problematic rules)
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Post by jjas on May 8, 2018 15:00:19 GMT -5
I consider myself more of a casual fan, but I too have noticed a lot of empty seats this year.
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Post by greghopper on May 8, 2018 16:11:19 GMT -5
I consider myself more of a casual fan, but I too have noticed a lot of empty seats this year. People are staying home and watching on TV.
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Post by hornzilla on May 8, 2018 16:19:47 GMT -5
I consider myself more of a casual fan, but I too have noticed a lot of empty seats this year. People are staying home and watching on TV. I think people are staying home as a result of the lack of extra money. Racing in general from dirt tracks to Daytona and Indy have fallen off. People have found different forums of entertainment. The economy crash and 4 dollar a gallon gas taken a toll still to this day.
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Post by Russ Koon on May 8, 2018 17:18:47 GMT -5
I think it goes more to the changes in the races, over the years, and the changes in the fan base.
I know I went from being more of an open-wheel fan in the fifties and early sixties, to catching the Nascar bug when so many did, when there was Big-3 backed competition and seven liter power pushing speeds to 200+ on the big tracks, and fans at both the drags and the NASCAR events were more sharply divided by brand loyalty.
There was also the darker but real factor of the gladiators risking their lives out there, which added to the drama.
As the risk level gradually was overcome with increased safety measures and reduced top speeds (temporarily, until the engine builders learned how to make unbelievable power from 355 cubes), the attraction began to wane slightly. Then as old favorites retired or died off, and rule changes and safer venues further reduced the dangers and the engine durability reduced the drama of seeing which engines could last the longer races, fuel prices and shortages were eating away at the fan base who were becoming more interested in smaller cars that had the performance to still be fun, but could also get 30+ mpg.
As NASCAR was trying to regain their losses in fans by equalizing the competition with "lucky dog" rules and mandatory pit stops, the fans were getting more bored with watching vehicles that bore little resemblance to the one in their driveways, racing at airplane speeds in packs that were necessary to remain in contact with the leaders. Drivers caught on and just stayed on the same lap until the last twenty, then raced, until NASCAR gain tried to jazz up interest by instituting the "Chase" and more lately, the "Stages". Somebody in an interview several years ago, said "What is NASCAR going to do next year, FIgure-Eights?".
I don't know the answer, and I'm pretty sure NASCAR doesn't either.
I do know I used to watch every minute of every race I could get on TV, and the last several years I have more often set the recorder to catch it for me and watched it later when I didn't have to give up something I'd rather do with my daylight hours, and when I could watch it in less than half the time by skipping all the commercials and speeding through some long green flag runs at double-time. Still catch most of them, but when I forgot to tune in for the finish of the rained-out one a couple weeks ago, I didn't suffer much trauma.
Did enjoy a race at the Paragon dirt track a couple years ago. Took me back to when I was a teen and we could hear them from our small farm about five miles SE of there, and we'd sometimes go over there and sit in the bleachers, or occasionally slip through the woods and come in uninvited when we didn't have the money for the gate. We still live just a couple miles further from the track than we did then, and if there's a west wind, we still can sit on the deck and hear them qualifying on a Saturday night.
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Post by whitetaildave24 on May 8, 2018 18:02:39 GMT -5
Ahhh, it’s just nascar. Not gonna affect many people.
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Post by greyhair on May 8, 2018 18:53:25 GMT -5
To me, a racing fan since childhood, here is the problem.
The cars look too much alike, just like all modern cars. Boring..
Racing in packs. Boring..
Cars too equally matched. Boring..
So many ads on the cars (and drivers) that they look absolutely ridiculous.
Uncomfortable seating at tracks
High ticket prices.
Last but not least, what idiot came up with stage racing? They must have wanted to kill the last iota of fun, and it worked.
The only NASCAR I enjoy any more is the road race.
I have taken to watching motorcycle racing when I can find it. Not motocross, but FIM, and other road racing. Those guys have big ones and the competition is tooth and nail, all the time.
I wish there was a track closer to me.
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Post by firstwd on May 8, 2018 19:51:48 GMT -5
I've said for a long time that NASCAR should get back the the roots of racing. All Cup Series events should be Saturday night races, no practice days, qualifying and hot laps the morning of. No guaranteed starting spots, if you don't qualify you don't race. The first thing they need to do is make every car fit a template of the model/year of the production cars.
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Post by greghopper on May 8, 2018 21:00:08 GMT -5
Ahhh, it’s just nascar. Not gonna affect many people. Yeah.... they're probably just have a raffle and wining ticket will own NASCAR! Lmao
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Post by nfalls116 on May 8, 2018 21:10:20 GMT -5
Who wants to see a bunch of cry babies drive around in circles at a high rate of speed in essentially the exact same car as the next guy.
Heck go sit on a round a bout in Plainfield and you’ll get just as much entertainment for fraction of the cost.
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Post by featherduster on May 9, 2018 2:53:38 GMT -5
Drag racing is growing apparent by the numbers of people at the races and the new TV shows like Street Outlaws. Look at the crowds they draw when they put on an event at a drag strip. Women love drag racing just look at the number of women that have been and are currently winning in major categories and by the number of them in the stands. NASCAR is to long and boring "there I said it" it's gotten to be boring watching a long race waiting for those final laps when a race breaks out. Hold the entire event in one day in a 3-4 hour window, flights of ten cars qualifying at once,heat races with some inversions,and a 150-200 mile race with no segments. I don't want to see NASCAR racing at night because it competes with small tracks which is the grass roots of racing. One of the reasons I enjoy sprint car racing is because it takes place in the evening,in the dark and it's over in a timely fashion, besides beer tastes better at night then it does in the hot sun.
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Post by beermaker on May 9, 2018 4:47:26 GMT -5
I have lost almost all interest in professional sports. In general, I view most of the competitors as a bunch of spoiled whiny babies. They can't behave themselves during competition, in their personal lives, and especially on social media.
Again, just a general opinion of most, not all.
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Post by steiny on May 9, 2018 9:35:17 GMT -5
Kind of like any pro sport, they've priced their fan base right out of attending.
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Post by stevein on May 9, 2018 10:18:10 GMT -5
I have been seeing a lot of advertising for the Indy 500 lately. I never remember seeing that.
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Post by MuzzleLoader on May 9, 2018 11:42:20 GMT -5
Never been to the Indy 500 or a NASCAR race. Absolutely no desire to see either. Rather watch races here at local dirt track.
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Post by hornzilla on May 9, 2018 11:52:14 GMT -5
Kind of like any pro sport, they've priced their fan base right out of attending. Racing in general has priced itself our of business. My program use to be a top notch local car and a mid to back of pack USAC equipment. Now unfortunately it takes a USAC caliber car to run decent at local shows now. Each year we spend more to keep up. And at the end of the day we now have 25,000 dollar motors in sprint cars and we are running for the same amount that we did 15 years ago. And the racing isn't a darn bit better.
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Post by greghopper on May 10, 2018 14:29:24 GMT -5
3-5 BILLION..... is the romour value of NASCAR!
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Post by treetop on May 13, 2018 10:16:16 GMT -5
3-5 BILLION..... is the romour value of NASCAR! I would say a lot of that is TV and title sponsor sales
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