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Post by span870 on Feb 9, 2018 8:13:00 GMT -5
I thought they were going to close season North of I-70 for a season to try to rapidly correct the herd numbers? Would be awesome for the "no deer left" crowd. I can see it now. "Well, I meant everyone else shouldn't shoot deer, not me though".
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Post by span870 on Feb 9, 2018 8:17:14 GMT -5
Don't matter none to me, shoot what you want. I will say, don't bash antler restrictions until you've seen what Pennsylvania has produced over the last several years since restrictions went into place. Now if we are talking about building the size of antlers on the deer in our herd, okay. For any other issue but feel good, no. Yes there would be some BIG six's that die of old age but I'm sure that few and far between. Personally I'd rather have a high and tight heavy 6 than a perfect wide 8. I like the weird deer.
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Post by Woody Williams on Feb 9, 2018 8:17:16 GMT -5
Definitely a slot limit deer. Gonna have to let him walk. If he stays a 6 he dies of old age. The farm I killed him off of had an overabundance of sixes. He was the grand daddy of them all. Point restrictions leads to "high grading" and that is counter to what the "I want big antler" crowd wants.. .
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Post by Woody Williams on Feb 9, 2018 8:21:06 GMT -5
Don't matter none to me, shoot what you want. I will say, don't bash antler restrictions until you've seen what Pennsylvania has produced over the last several years since restrictions went into place. Now if we are talking about building the size of antlers on the deer in our herd, okay. For any other issue but feel good, no. Yes there would be some BIG six's that die of old age but I'm sure that few and far between. Personally I'd rather have a high and tight heavy 6 than a perfect wide 8. I like the weird deer. No comparison on PA versus IN... PA had was killing just about every buck there was at a ripe old age of 1 1/2 years old. It sorely need a very drastic solution. Not so with IN.. We have enough folks that are willing to pass the 1 1/2 year olds and even 2 1/2 year olds..
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Post by omegahunter on Feb 9, 2018 8:38:55 GMT -5
Thought I saw on one of the announcements that they are proposing HPR on public land as well now.
Guess that would finally do away with all of the confusion on what rifle can be used where, except select military hunts that still don't allow rifles.
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Post by span870 on Feb 9, 2018 10:55:06 GMT -5
Don't matter none to me, shoot what you want. I will say, don't bash antler restrictions until you've seen what Pennsylvania has produced over the last several years since restrictions went into place. Now if we are talking about building the size of antlers on the deer in our herd, okay. For any other issue but feel good, no. Yes there would be some BIG six's that die of old age but I'm sure that few and far between. Personally I'd rather have a high and tight heavy 6 than a perfect wide 8. I like the weird deer. No comparison on PA versus IN... PA had was killing just about every buck there was at a ripe old age of 1 1/2 years old. It sorely need a very drastic solution. Not so with IN.. We have enough folks that are willing to pass the 1 1/2 year olds and even 2 1/2 year olds.. Killing every 1 1/2 year old. Man you're giving em the benefit of the doubt. Dad killed a good 100" ten pointer years and years ago. People from three counties away came to see it. Indiana hunters study the spike to see if maybe they can tag as a doe, pa hunters look hoping to get three inches off one antler. The they are killing em all crowd in Indiana would have a heart attack back in the days of party tags and drives back there.
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Post by esshup on Feb 10, 2018 10:38:01 GMT -5
How many states that have point restrictions and width restrictions/slot limits allow baiting?
Just think of the outcry if there was a 2-3 year "slot" of "can't be wider than the ears" and has to be 4 points min, 8 points max." That should allow some of the bigger bucks to get much bigger, and the little bucks with good potential (like a small racked 10 point) grow to their potential.
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Post by firstwd on Feb 10, 2018 19:53:32 GMT -5
Hey, when Prop one was going around, I asked why they just didn't go antlerless only for a year or two and quickly increase the age structure and number of bucks. They were worried the "trophy hunters" would throw too much of a fit.
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Post by Pinoc on Feb 10, 2018 21:23:36 GMT -5
1 1/2 year old bucks are very good eating and you get more yield from them than a doe. Some of us look at that side of the coin and don’t care about antlers. The last deer my father shot before he passed was a 1 1/2 old buck and I gutted it for him. I am glad there wasn’t a law then that robbed me of that memory.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 12:15:55 GMT -5
I would personally like to see a major reduction in the bonus antlerless quota, maybe even taking it away for a few seasons.
I know not many people get even near the massive quotas, but they're basically telling people that you can kill as many antlerless deer as you can handle.
Because regardless of what people say there are pockets of this state that have had their populations seriously hurt from many factors. Especially the flat open farm land of central indiana.
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Post by firstwd on Feb 11, 2018 13:33:53 GMT -5
I would personally like to see a major reduction in the bonus antlerless quota, maybe even taking it away for a few seasons. I know not many people get even near the massive quotas, but they're basically telling people that you can kill as many antlerless deer as you can handle. Because regardless of what people say there are pockets of this state that have had their populations seriously hurt from many factors. Especially the flat open farm land of central indiana. If you're going to take away the antlerless tags and pick on the gun only hunters then you need to shut down all antlerless killing. Period. The thing is, that would be extremely detrimental to the working plan of the DNR and isn't going to happen.
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Post by firstwd on Feb 11, 2018 13:42:13 GMT -5
I know a lot of this thread has been posted in jest, and it is funny.
But, in all seriousness, I would love to see one major change. Take the Bonus Antlerless Map and change it to the Antlerless Map. Meaning, no matter what season or weapon used, the map shows the total number of antlerless deer allowed for each county. The only change needed would be making all "A" counties a numbered county.
It would instantly lower the number of antlerless deer allowed per county by 3, wouldn't have a detrimental effect on people's harvest, and put all hunters (no matter weapon choices) on the same page.
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Post by steiny on Feb 11, 2018 15:04:32 GMT -5
I thought they were going to close season North of I-70 for a season to try to rapidly correct the herd numbers? Would be awesome for the "no deer left" crowd. I can see it now. "Well, I meant everyone else shouldn't shoot deer, not me though". This would be wonderful, but we all know nothing like it will ever be considered.
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