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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 31, 2018 15:17:14 GMT -5
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Post by jjas on Jan 31, 2018 15:29:20 GMT -5
Why are private companies hired to do things like this, when we all know that hunters would gladly pay for the privilege? Is it a liability issue for the state?
I'd love to know...
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Jan 31, 2018 16:41:23 GMT -5
It’s bloomington, what else would be expected.
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Post by firstwd on Jan 31, 2018 17:07:03 GMT -5
Archery only, could do specific weekends if necessary, could use regular state tags, could even charge an entrance fee or possibly an application fee that would go to the parks department, could even just add it to the current list of draw hunts the state has.
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Post by beermaker on Jan 31, 2018 17:33:11 GMT -5
It’s bloomington, what else would be expected. EXACTLY!
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Post by onebentarrow on Jan 31, 2018 18:20:52 GMT -5
That is only 25$ and change a lb. I think it was a good deal.
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Post by jjas on Jan 31, 2018 19:20:34 GMT -5
That is only 25$ and change a lb. I think it was a good deal. I think it's $25.00 per lb....
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Post by arlowe13 on Jan 31, 2018 20:44:00 GMT -5
Have you guys heard about the CHAP program? My dad is a state-licensed wildlife control operator and is going through the training to be a CHAP hunt coordinator. "The Community Hunting Access Program (CHAP) was developed by the Indiana Department of Natural Resources, Division of Fish and Wildlife (DFW) to increase deer hunting opportunities for white-tailed deer in urban environments, while helping to alleviate human/deer conflicts. Regulated deer hunting is the most practical and cost-effective method for herd management and has been implemented successfully in Indiana for many years. However, for social and logistical reasons, deer hunting is relatively uncommon in urban spaces. High densities of human dwellings, complex land ownership, perceived safety concerns, and other factors can create a need for expert coordination and management of urban hunts." www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/files/fw-CHAP_app_info.pdf
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Post by greghopper on Jan 31, 2018 20:58:50 GMT -5
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Post by arlowe13 on Jan 31, 2018 21:07:30 GMT -5
Thanks, maybe I should open my eyes a little more lol
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Post by dbd870 on Feb 1, 2018 7:48:08 GMT -5
Doesn't matter it's just the lowly taxpayers money - they don't know how to best utilize it anyways. Move along serf!
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Post by tynimiller on Feb 1, 2018 8:29:54 GMT -5
Honestly...if a group of well minded and professionally organized group of bowhunters down there could seriously develop an implementation plan of archery only hunts and be able to show the ease, cost ratios and such to the city council I guarantee you some tread would hit.
The issue is though from rumors I've heard is the pleas to "kill deer" are never organized, anything but professional and scattered to say the least.
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Post by greghopper on Feb 1, 2018 8:46:27 GMT -5
I say most any organized Bow group would be looking for Deer on the wall not Deer in the belly!
GunHunters Maybe different story....
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Post by tynimiller on Feb 1, 2018 8:47:29 GMT -5
$25/lb of venison.....ridiculous.
Also someone spoke to the liability issue possibly present. Forget the IC code off hand but landowners have statutory protection of injury of a hunter utilizing their land....HOWEVER. It would be quite cheaper for the city of Bloomington to coordinate (or a hunter's alliance) with a lawyer to draft up a liability release form any hunter partaking in the hunts to sign.
That cost would be drastically lower than $43K and would not need revisement most likely...city could even charge for hunter applications to partake in the hunt in order to raise funds for whomever coordinates/organizes the hunt and/or park expenses or improvement funding.
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Post by tynimiller on Feb 1, 2018 8:49:05 GMT -5
I say most any organized Bow group would be looking for Deer on the wall not Deer in the belly! 100% see this point. You could seeing as how population is the key to this cause, propose only antlerless deer be targeted. Afterall that is the purest way to control populations not harvesting the males. Would remove the fight back no doubt of "trophy hunter mentality". Would definitely weed out the "only looking for a buck" crowd.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 8:53:13 GMT -5
My question is why was a cull needed. Get rid of the anti hunting regulations that impairs the hunters that live in that area.
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Post by Woody Williams on Feb 1, 2018 9:31:45 GMT -5
But these folks are pure anti-hunters. They do not want see anyone get pleasure from hunting and killing any animal.
IMO - There will never be any deer hunting here, just deer killing by sharpshooters..
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Post by tynimiller on Feb 1, 2018 9:45:06 GMT -5
But these folks are pure anti-hunters. They do not want see anyone get pleasure from hunting and killing any animal. IMO - There will never be any deer hunting here, just deer killing by sharpshooters.. Which is precisely why it would take some very organized and different approach to explaining why death by hunter is in the county's, city's and community's best interest over paying sharpshooters. Fiscal responsibility is just one aspect of why that would make sense.
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Post by dbd870 on Feb 1, 2018 10:17:58 GMT -5
But these folks are pure anti-hunters. They do not want see anyone get pleasure from hunting and killing any animal. IMO - There will never be any deer hunting here, just deer killing by sharpshooters.. Which is precisely why it would take some very organized and different approach to explaining why death by hunter is in the county's, city's and community's best interest over paying sharpshooters. Fiscal responsibility is just one aspect of why that would make sense. That bunch still wouldn't care. It will never happen
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 10:38:10 GMT -5
But these folks are pure anti-hunters. They do not want see anyone get pleasure from hunting and killing any animal. IMO - There will never be any deer hunting here, just deer killing by sharpshooters.. I disagree. They are there, but can't per regulation. I was once one of them in the city of Cincinnati. Owned a two family and live in one of the units. I had deer in my yard and around the area. Lots of them. No hunting, not even using my bow. Once I was target shooting my bow and a Cincy police officer stopped in front and came into my property informing me that what I was doing was not a good idea. I could miss and hit someone. What a joke. I showed the officer the target and the center was worn out and informed him that I could shout between someone eye's if I wanted. He left then. He had no idea that I could shot and commented before he had any facts. Just like a socialist, they know better and must inflict their pain to all. I'm surprised they didn't add no bow shooting in city limits. The issue is tracking and even the company sharp shooter has the same issue. How do you retrieve without trespassing??? by the way. My good friend (fireman) lived a street over and he had the same issue. Two hunters within 100 yards.
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