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Post by greghopper on Jan 1, 2018 7:12:30 GMT -5
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 1, 2018 7:56:46 GMT -5
The IWDHM bunch was sure active on it weren’t they?
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Post by firstwd on Jan 1, 2018 8:17:43 GMT -5
What of that I read, was fun. What I saw in those responses was a bunch of people who are complaining because they actually have to put forth an effort, aren't seeing old 150"+ bucks constantly, and life isn't exactly like the television shows - even some that run and hunt around year-round bait stations.
So, whiners, basically.
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Post by dbd870 on Jan 1, 2018 8:50:14 GMT -5
Even Captain Picard thinks this is nonsense
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Post by jjas on Jan 1, 2018 9:01:04 GMT -5
The IWDHM bunch was sure active on it weren’t they? Of course they were...
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 1, 2018 9:24:41 GMT -5
Even Captain Picard thinks this is nonsense C'mon now....everyone knows that online polls are 110% accurate and really do reflect actuality...
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Post by jjas on Jan 1, 2018 10:26:15 GMT -5
Woody Williams
Especially when people post multiple times....
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 1, 2018 11:13:39 GMT -5
For giggles I took it. My grades were A for trophy potential, but I'm in a managed area C and D herd and management. Indiana's biggest problem IMO is legislators having more say than our Deer biologist and DNR staff in regards wildlife mgt. Have had several conversations with past and current biologist and DNR staff and this topic always comes to up.
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Post by js2397 on Jan 1, 2018 11:19:13 GMT -5
I would give them all A's in Harrison County. We have great trophy potential and a great deer population. Last night there were 7 different bucks and 10 different does and fawns within view of my front porch.
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Post by freedomhunter on Jan 1, 2018 15:08:30 GMT -5
I would give them all A's in Harrison County. We have great trophy potential and a great deer population. Last night there were 7 different bucks and 10 different does and fawns within view of my front porch. Not every county is Harrison. That is a big part of our problem with current regs imo. Northern indiana is nothing like the southern part of the state.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 1, 2018 15:22:38 GMT -5
I would give them all A's in Harrison County. We have great trophy potential and a great deer population. Last night there were 7 different bucks and 10 different does and fawns within view of my front porch. Not every county is Harrison. That is a big part of our problem with current regs imo. Northern indiana is nothing like the southern part of the state. That’s why the DNR mangages by county and not by north and south..
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 1, 2018 16:33:44 GMT -5
I like the county by county system just wish bonus antlerless limits were MUCH lower.
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Post by firstwd on Jan 1, 2018 16:36:42 GMT -5
I like the county by county system just wish bonus antlerless limits were MUCH lower. With the numbers you hold on your place? If the antlerless limits are lowered you'd go broke feeding them.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 1, 2018 16:44:56 GMT -5
I like the county by county system just wish bonus antlerless limits were MUCH lower. They have been lowering them the last three or four years. Maybe not as fast as some folks want, but they are lowering them..
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Post by js2397 on Jan 1, 2018 17:02:10 GMT -5
I would give them all A's in Harrison County. We have great trophy potential and a great deer population. Last night there were 7 different bucks and 10 different does and fawns within view of my front porch. Not every county is Harrison. That is a big part of our problem with current regs imo. Northern indiana is nothing like the southern part of the state. I agree 100%, the North lost a ton of suitable deer habitat when corn was high. Most of the public land and deer habitat is in the south. That's why we need to think about other areas when we get upset with the DNR. My area of the state is awesome with plenty of opportunities for hunters. I would hate for there to be big changes based on what is happening up north.
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Post by treetop on Jan 1, 2018 17:36:48 GMT -5
I would give them all A's in Harrison County. We have great trophy potential and a great deer population. Last night there were 7 different bucks and 10 different does and fawns within view of my front porch. Not every county is Harrison. That is a big part of our problem with current regs imo. Northern indiana is nothing like the southern part of the state. + 1 there's not near the deer around here that use to be I drive a lot for my job and I could point out places you'd see deer almost 50% of the time nows it 10% at best ask salt he will tell you the same he just lives a few from me. There's guys on here that see more deer in one weekend then I see all season and I do hunt a lot and that's on all three places not just one little area.
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Post by wesb81219 on Jan 1, 2018 19:13:27 GMT -5
I live way up north on the Indiana / Michigan border. Most hunts on private property I'll see a few deer if I sit long enough and once in a great while I'll see 2 or 3 together.
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Post by hornzilla on Jan 1, 2018 19:31:42 GMT -5
Everyone knows what the true answer is. As quoted from Featherduster. "Deer hate Indiana." Lol
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Post by M4Madness on Jan 1, 2018 19:48:41 GMT -5
The state may as well lower all counties to 2 bonus antlerless, since VERY few use more than that. It won't really affect the herd size, but maybe it'll finally get the naysayers to see that the problem is way bigger than bonus antlerless and depredation tags. Then again, after seeing no real herd growth after a few years of reduced tags, they'd probably just say that the DNR was too late and still not admit that predators, loss of habitat, and the biggest problem of all -- too many hunters for Indiana's herd -- are what's really to blame. If every hunter in Indiana took a single deer annually, we'd be in big trouble...
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Post by jjas on Jan 1, 2018 21:12:17 GMT -5
The state may as well lower all counties to 2 bonus antlerless, since VERY few use more than that. It won't really affect the herd size, but maybe it'll finally get the naysayers to see that the problem is way bigger than bonus antlerless and depredation tags. Then again, after seeing no real herd growth after a few years of reduced tags, they'd probably just say that the DNR was too late and still not admit that predators, loss of habitat, and the biggest problem of all -- too many hunters for Indiana's herd -- are what's really to blame. If every hunter in Indiana took a single deer annually, we'd be in big trouble... I do believe you are on to something... I went back and looked @ the data from three seasons....2009,2012,2016. In 2009, the total number of antlerless deer killed was 79,772. Of that number, 59,053 were killed during the firearms and muzzleloader seasons (as there wasn't a late antlerless season that year). That total (59,053) equates to 74% of the total antlerless harvest that season. In 2012, (the first season after the reg changes), the total number of antlerless deer killed was 90,312. Of that number, 63,825 were killed during the firearms, muzzleloader AND the late antlerless seasons. That total (63,825) equates to 71% of the total antlerless harvest that season. In 2016, the total number of antlerless deer killed was 67,694. Of that number, 49,355 were killed during the firearms, muzzleloader AND the late antlerless seasons. That total (49,355) equates to 73% of the total harvest. Point being...(on a percentage of total antlerless harvest basis), that number has totaled somewhere between 71-74 percent of the total antlerless harvest (for the three seasons, I cited) with a firearm whether that season included a late antlerless season or not. In other words, it certainly appears that there aren't more antlerless deer being killed (as a percentage of total antlerless harvest) with a firearm because of the late antlerless season, it has just spread the number of antlerless deer killed with a firearm out... FWIW, I went back and checked from 2009-2016. Before the reg change in 2012, the percentage was 2009-74%, 2010-75%, 2011-74%, for an average of 74%. Since 2012 (after the reg change), the percentage was 2012-71%, 2013-69%, 2014-68%, 2015-69%, 2016-73%, for an average of 70%. So in actuality, the percentage of antlerless harvest with a firearm has actually dropped since 2012, even with the addition of the late antlerless season...
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