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Post by alduflux on Dec 27, 2017 16:19:26 GMT -5
I assisted a landowner tag his deer online. It was my first experience doing so (the landowner part).
I'm curious what kind of (if any) system exist to verify if someone is eligible for the landowner exemption? The online aspect of it didn't require any proof of actually being a landowner.
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Post by firstwd on Dec 27, 2017 17:56:49 GMT -5
I assisted a landowner tag his deer online. It was my first experience doing so (the landowner part). I'm curious what kind of (if any) system exist to verify if someone is eligible for the landowner exemption? The online aspect of it didn't require any proof of actually being a landowner. Believe it or not, all the online checked deer are gone through by the DNR for inconsistencies. A landowner can be easily verified and a "new" landowner checking in deer will alert the system. |
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Dec 27, 2017 19:54:29 GMT -5
I assisted a landowner tag his deer online. It was my first experience doing so (the landowner part). I'm curious what kind of (if any) system exist to verify if someone is eligible for the landowner exemption? The online aspect of it didn't require any proof of actually being a landowner. Believe it or not, all the online checked deer are gone through by the DNR for inconsistencies. A landowner can be easily verified and a "new" landowner checking in deer will alert the system. I checked in my turkey as a landowner for the first time ever and wasn’t called or checked. |
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Post by firstwd on Dec 27, 2017 20:40:47 GMT -5
Believe it or not, all the online checked deer are gone through by the DNR for inconsistencies. A landowner can be easily verified and a "new" landowner checking in deer will alert the system. I checked in my turkey as a landowner for the first time ever and wasn’t called or checked. Just because you weren't called or checked doesn't mean the DNR didn't check that you were in fact a new landowner in that county. I know my local officer goes through them. |
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Post by greghopper on Dec 27, 2017 21:06:12 GMT -5
I checked in my turkey as a landowner for the first time ever and wasn’t called or checked. Just because you weren't called or checked doesn't mean the DNR didn't check that you were in fact a new landowner in that county. I know my local officer goes through them. That's exactly how it works.... no one has to call anyone when the information in a click away on the internet. |
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Post by nfalls116 on Dec 27, 2017 21:54:18 GMT -5
They usually only call or stop by when you are guilty in their mind
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Post by esshup on Dec 27, 2017 22:42:19 GMT -5
I saw the local CO sitting in his truck in an empty parking lot and I stopped to chat. He was going thru the on-line deer registration to look for anything out of place. They DO check.
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 28, 2017 11:41:23 GMT -5
ON LINE check in is a absolutely great tool for law enforcement. Instant access to harvest data and enables CO's to catch more poacher's. Way, way better than old check station system and saves state time and money as well as catch more dishonest hunter's.
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Post by alduflux on Dec 28, 2017 15:51:18 GMT -5
ON LINE check in is a absolutely great tool for law enforcement. Instant access to harvest data and enables CO's to catch more poacher's. Way, way better than old check station system and saves state time and money as well as catch more dishonest hunter's. How does it make it easier to catch poachers? |
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Post by omegahunter on Jan 4, 2018 15:11:19 GMT -5
For one it is faster for them to check if someone checked in a deer. Not checking in = poaching. The other is "what" they checked in. If it was reported that someone took two antlered, they can check to see if one was checked in as an antlerless.
Just keep imagining scenarios.
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Post by alduflux on Jan 4, 2018 16:24:38 GMT -5
I guess the loophole I envision is as follows.
Before, a person had to literally take a deer to a check in station and have another person see the deer. It was impossible to legally tag a buck as a doe (unless the check in guy doesn't even check the deer, which is another matter.)
Now a person can literally take the deer back to his place (the temp tag would be as a buck), tag his buck online as a doe, then skin/clean it. The only risk he has is the time between the official online check in and disposing of the literal remains that show a fresh buck kill. That is a short window for an LEO to determine a deer was tagged improperly. The guy then literally has meat in the freezer and a legal doe tag. The LEO has no evidence of a buck kill. He then continues hunting with a unfilled buck tag.
The advantages of the "online" aspect for LEO's would exist even if you had to take a deer to a check-in station. The station would then check you in online. The system before was paper.
For the record, I love online check in. (particularly the ability to quarter deer in the field). I just imagine it makes illegal tagging of deer easier.
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Post by scrub-buster on Jan 4, 2018 16:25:37 GMT -5
Instead of going to check stations and having to read through the book they can pull up the information on a computer from the field.
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Post by medic22 on Jan 4, 2018 17:13:06 GMT -5
I guess the loophole I envision is as follows. Before, a person had to literally take a deer to a check in station and have another person see the deer. It was impossible to legally tag a buck as a doe (unless the check in guy doesn't even check the deer, which is another matter.) Now a person can literally take the deer back to his place (the temp tag would be as a buck), tag his buck online as a doe, then skin/clean it. The only risk he has is the time between the official online check in and disposing of the literal remains that show a fresh buck kill. That is a short window for an LEO to determine a deer was tagged improperly. The guy then literally has meat in the freezer and a legal doe tag. The LEO has no evidence of a buck kill. He then continues hunting with a unfilled buck tag. The advantages of the "online" aspect for LEO's would exist even if you had to take a deer to a check-in station. The station would then check you in online. The system before was paper. For the record, I love online check in. (particularly the ability to quarter deer in the field). I just imagine it makes illegal tagging of deer easier. Or he never checks in the deer period, which makes both online check in and check stations useless. Dont over think it. 99 out of 100 guys will use the system as it should be, regardless of the system. |
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Jan 4, 2018 17:20:14 GMT -5
I guess the loophole I envision is as follows. Before, a person had to literally take a deer to a check in station and have another person see the deer. It was impossible to legally tag a buck as a doe (unless the check in guy doesn't even check the deer, which is another matter.) Now a person can literally take the deer back to his place (the temp tag would be as a buck), tag his buck online as a doe, then skin/clean it. The only risk he has is the time between the official online check in and disposing of the literal remains that show a fresh buck kill. That is a short window for an LEO to determine a deer was tagged improperly. The guy then literally has meat in the freezer and a legal doe tag. The LEO has no evidence of a buck kill. He then continues hunting with a unfilled buck tag. The advantages of the "online" aspect for LEO's would exist even if you had to take a deer to a check-in station. The station would then check you in online. The system before was paper. For the record, I love online check in. (particularly the ability to quarter deer in the field). I just imagine it makes illegal tagging of deer easier. Or he never checks in the deer period, which makes both online check in and check stations useless. Dont over think it. 99 out of 100 guys will use the system as it should be, regardless of the system. I agree not to over think it, poachers will poach regardless. I think it's a lot higher than 1/100 that don't follow the rules though. |
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Post by M4Madness on Jan 4, 2018 18:43:48 GMT -5
Before, a person had to literally take a deer to a check in station and have another person see the deer. It was impossible to legally tag a buck as a doe (unless the check in guy doesn't even check the deer, which is another matter.) With the old "brick and mortar" check stations, there was never a law requiring the attendant to go outside and view the deer. I checked in 60+ deer at various check stations prior to online check-in, and I bet only a half dozen times did they come out and look at my deer. In fact, lots of times they just handed me the paper log and had me fill it out myself, as they were too busy with other tasks to check in deer. |
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Jan 4, 2018 18:54:21 GMT -5
Before, a person had to literally take a deer to a check in station and have another person see the deer. It was impossible to legally tag a buck as a doe (unless the check in guy doesn't even check the deer, which is another matter.) With the old "brick and mortar" check stations, there was never a law requiring the attendant to go outside and view the deer. I checked in 60+ deer at various check stations prior to online check-in, and I bet only a half dozen times did they come out and look at my deer. In fact, lots of times they just handed me the paper log and had me fill it out myself, as they were too busy with other tasks to check in deer. Yep. Very few times do I remember the attendant coming out. I filled out the log and applied the metal tag. Heck we didn’t have any tags in my county during shotgun one year. No one brought them to station. |
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 4, 2018 19:37:04 GMT -5
Tele-check is a CO's best friend and a much more effective system than old check stations and saves money... I love it. Guys can still go to gas stations and set and brag about their kills...😁😁😁
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Post by welder on Jan 4, 2018 21:05:47 GMT -5
Or he never checks in the deer period, which makes both online check in and check stations useless. Dont over think it. 99 out of 100 guys will use the system as it should be, regardless of the system. I agree not to over think it, poachers will poach regardless. I think it's a lot higher than 1/100 that don't follow the rules though. ×2 |
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