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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 1, 2017 10:18:16 GMT -5
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 1, 2017 10:27:50 GMT -5
I've said it before and I'll say it again: People who do not confirm their target and what is behind it SHOULD NEVER GET TO HUNT AGAIN.
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Like in this case all and any charges applicable should be pressed. No excuse or reason justifies such a decision.
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Post by swilk on Dec 1, 2017 11:03:34 GMT -5
I would say the after dark thing was the tipping point in the decision to file or not ..... its no accident when something happens while you are in the act of breaking a law.
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Post by jjas on Dec 1, 2017 11:29:36 GMT -5
I'm sure it was an accident, but...
If you are breaking the law to begin with by shooting after dark and you break one of the first rules of hunting safety (Be sure of the target and what is in front of it and beyond it), then it's time to face the consequences of your actions.
Period...
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 1, 2017 11:51:43 GMT -5
Sorry there are no accidental discharges of a firearm...this man chose to shoot after dark, at an unconfirmed object, there is nothing accidental about it IMO.
When I worked at a range I always told folks there are ZERO accidents when a gun is fired...only negligence.
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Post by dbd870 on Dec 1, 2017 12:03:46 GMT -5
I am good with the charges.
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Post by esshup on Dec 1, 2017 13:19:09 GMT -5
I am good with the charges. Ditto!!!! |
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Post by swilk on Dec 1, 2017 15:32:10 GMT -5
Sorry there are no accidental discharges of a firearm...this man chose to shoot after dark, at an unconfirmed object, there is nothing accidental about it IMO. When I worked at a range I always told folks there are ZERO accidents when a gun is fired...only negligence. I disagree with this ..... but we are each entitled to our opinions. I think there are most definitely circumstances where the consequences of a discharge can be considered an accident. |
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 1, 2017 15:39:27 GMT -5
Sorry there are no accidental discharges of a firearm...this man chose to shoot after dark, at an unconfirmed object, there is nothing accidental about it IMO. When I worked at a range I always told folks there are ZERO accidents when a gun is fired...only negligence. I disagree with this ..... but we are each entitled to our opinions. I think there are most definitely circumstances where the consequences of a discharge can be considered an accident. I respect ya tremendously, can you give an example where it is an accident and not negligence? Every example I've been given their is improper firearm safety or decision made which resulted in the issue. |
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 1, 2017 15:41:52 GMT -5
And...yes IMO not knowing any better is negligence...some simply have no clue, but choose to not get training or understand.
Main reason why when I had someone seeking knowledge point a gun at me I didn't respond nearly the same as someone supposedly trained or a "gun person"....however I still did respond, and they knew a huge mistake was made.
Firearms are serious stuff...some shouldn't have them period. LOL.
There is nothing quite as unsettling as a loaded gun pointed at you point blank.
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Post by swilk on Dec 1, 2017 15:42:35 GMT -5
Target range with a very unlucky bounce back that hits someone ....
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 1, 2017 15:45:54 GMT -5
Target range with a very unlucky bounce back that hits someone .... Nothing the shooter did resulted in the injury though. Fragmentation injury is a result of normal bullet to object impact, not a soul knows what will happen after impact for sure. Kinda like getting brain damage from boxing...assumed danger. Zero negligence may be present and most likely wasn't. |
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Post by swilk on Dec 1, 2017 15:47:29 GMT -5
A person could realistically verify everything downrange looks as clear as they can ever get and sometime during the flight time of a bullet that circumstance changes.... A single second is a long time.
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Post by swilk on Dec 1, 2017 15:49:41 GMT -5
Target range with a very unlucky bounce back that hits someone .... Nothing the shooter did resulted in the injury though. Fragmentation injury is a result of normal bullet to object impact, not a soul knows what will happen after impact for sure. Kinda like getting brain damage from boxing...assumed danger. Zero negligence may be present and most likely wasn't. The shooter pulled the trigger. You said there was no way a discharge of a firearm ended in an accident. Ill agree that most times you can trace it back to something a shooter should have done differently but there are circumstances that make that "never" word not apply. |
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Post by nodak on Dec 1, 2017 16:24:58 GMT -5
After dark, 200 yards out, with a pistol...smh. Victim wasn't hunting, but another reason i wear more than the minimum orange in the woods.
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Post by stevein on Dec 1, 2017 16:25:08 GMT -5
I have no problems with the charges. After dark, he deserves what he gets.
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 1, 2017 16:30:01 GMT -5
Nothing the shooter did resulted in the injury though. Fragmentation injury is a result of normal bullet to object impact, not a soul knows what will happen after impact for sure. Kinda like getting brain damage from boxing...assumed danger. Zero negligence may be present and most likely wasn't. The shooter pulled the trigger. You said there was no way a discharge of a firearm ended in an accident. Ill agree that most times you can trace it back to something a shooter should have done differently but there are circumstances that make that "never" word not apply. I can concur...never is a word which excludes any acts of God or extremely crazy things...nearly never would be better term lol |
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Post by genesis273 on Dec 1, 2017 17:10:38 GMT -5
He deserves the charges. No excuses. His actions caused the event.
One example of a discharge where negligence was not the case was an incident that occurred during SWAT training. I was a sniper doing night fire drills. I was shooting a Remington 700 .308. I acquired my target, settled in, moved the safety forward to the "Off" position and BANG! Gun fired without my finger even being in the trigger guard. That was about 2 months before Remington announced their recall on the triggers/safety's.
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Post by nfalls116 on Dec 1, 2017 17:31:12 GMT -5
I disagree with this ..... but we are each entitled to our opinions. I think there are most definitely circumstances where the consequences of a discharge can be considered an accident. I respect ya tremendously, can you give an example where it is an accident and not negligence? Every example I've been given their is improper firearm safety or decision made which resulted in the issue. Mechanical issues |
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Post by bill9068 on Dec 1, 2017 17:39:52 GMT -5
The shooter may or may not go to jail, I say that because of the illegal alien who was found not guilty in San Francisco for killing the young lady last year. However if the deceaseds family files a civil suit he will more than likely be found guilty due to the circumstances.
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