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Post by esshup on Feb 15, 2019 23:41:26 GMT -5
Greg, a guy I know who shoots 'yotes in the UP with a 22-250 is getting $70/each now for them. Holes sewn up. He said the Russian Market is really picking up on them.
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Post by streamangler on Feb 16, 2019 8:58:27 GMT -5
DNR “belief” should not have anything to do with setting regs. I think the DNR should KNOW current estimated population and the likely outcomes of the quotas before a season is established.
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Post by budd on Feb 16, 2019 10:41:00 GMT -5
Our fur biologist has a lot of pull with the DNR. The trappers association also has their own fur biologist that works with the dnr. Anyone that purchases a trapping licence receives a survey in the mail that is quite detailed. I'm pretty happy with how our fur is managed, although I would like to see the cat limit dropped from 5 to 3.
Our cat season starts after deer rifle season, mostly because the cats seam to fur out a little later than say fox and coyote.
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Post by budd on Feb 16, 2019 11:10:19 GMT -5
You fellas down there sure see a lot of cats. I thought we have a decent population but I seldom hear of anyone seeing them. I've only seen 1 in all the years I've been here that I was not hunting or trapped. I believe our habitats are vastly different. We have decent sized pockets of big woods, but mostly it's broken wood lots, ag fields, and creek bottoms. Our cats have less expansive places to live, more open areas to cross, and less dense areas to hide. I knew that and was hoping someone would bring that up, just because your seeing cats does not mean that your population is large enough to sustain a season. Your cats are bound to be seen with the ease at which there habitat is accessible to people down there. Cats are not social animals and have home ranges, if you have lets say a tom and female sharing one home range that only includes 30-40 acres of really thick cat cover, it will not take a decent trapper long to catch them. When I'm trapping if I catch a small female, or kittens I will release them, leave traps set until I get the tom in that area, then pull traps from that area. I have found areas where home ranges overlap and managed to take two toms from one locations but it dont happen often. As far as a split season Im all for it, something the trappers ass. has pushed for in the past, but only to keep the accidental catch of hounds to a minimum. Our cat hunt/trap season starts the same time as fisher and martin with fisher and martin only having a 6 day season, most trappers here use 220 boxes for fisher and martin and as we all know a 220 will kill a dog in most instances. I would like to see them split the season in half to protect both hounds and the trappers from having any further restrictions put on their traps. |
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Post by esshup on Feb 16, 2019 11:44:43 GMT -5
Budd. couldn't the DNR place a location limit on the 220's? Say "X" feet above the ground? Like they do here with 330's, they can only be set underwater.
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Post by budd on Feb 16, 2019 13:45:55 GMT -5
Budd. couldn't the DNR place a location limit on the 220's? Say "X" feet above the ground? Like they do here with 330's, they can only be set underwater. I suppose they could but the 220 is a very common trap used for coon, otter, mink, Fisher, Martin, cats. It also gives trappers a three day check using kill traps. I don’t think they need more restrictions on the traps....but more common sense on trap location would be beneficial. |
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Post by esshup on Feb 16, 2019 17:26:29 GMT -5
Budd. couldn't the DNR place a location limit on the 220's? Say "X" feet above the ground? Like they do here with 330's, they can only be set underwater. I suppose they could but the 220 is a very common trap used for coon, otter, mink, Fisher, Martin, cats. It also gives trappers a three day check using kill traps. I don’t think they need more restrictions on the traps....but more common sense on trap location would be beneficial. Thanks, I didn't know they used them for Mink and Otter. I thought 110's and 120's for mink and 330's for otter. Never thought of using them for cats, the Fisher and Martin sets could be in the trees. All my foot holds are hanging because that was before the laminated/rubber jaw regs. |
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Feb 16, 2019 22:37:25 GMT -5
Why not set a conservative quota for each county, require a check-in, and season is closed when the quota is reached? Set it low then increase gradually. If sightings go down, takes longer and longer to fill the quota, etc., lower the quota.
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Post by greghopper on Feb 23, 2019 9:18:39 GMT -5
duboiscountyherald.com/b/hunters-advocate-for-bobcat-hunting-season “Let the biologists make the decisions that they should be making,” he said. “If you gotta go through the politicians to make a game management decision, then we don’t need the biologists. [Biologists are] the ones that went to school for this. They understand how biology and nature is supposed to work.”
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Post by budd on Feb 23, 2019 10:36:02 GMT -5
duboiscountyherald.com/b/hunters-advocate-for-bobcat-hunting-season “Let the biologists make the decisions that they should be making,” he said. “If you gotta go through the politicians to make a game management decision, then we don’t need the biologists. [Biologists are] the ones that went to school for this. They understand how biology and nature is supposed to work.” Miley should do just a little bit of investigating before making statements. I do agree that they should let the biologist do their jobs and let their studies dictate the harvest of wildlife. |
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Post by moose1am on Feb 26, 2019 11:42:09 GMT -5
I don't think we need another super predator, our turkey and small game populations are low now. The old checks and balances theory doesn't hold true here. What we need is more game habitat |
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