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Post by firstwd on Sept 19, 2017 9:20:29 GMT -5
Currently, Off Road Vehicles (ORV) are registered through the DNR at the BMV branches much like watercraft are. They get a sticker to place on the side of the unit that is good for 3 years for $30, I believe.
Some other states use an actual license plate on the ORV instead of a sticker. I would like to see Indiana move to this form of marking registered ORV's. They could either go exactly like passenger vehicles are done and each owner must obtain a plate when they purchase the ORV, or they could assign a number to an ORV that stays with the unit much like boats are currently done.
Truthfully, this is what I would like to see.
Each ORV owner registers their unit with the DNR through the BMV. They receive notification of a set of numbers they must put on a plate (size specifications much like boats) on both the front and rear of the vehicle, and the plate must have space for the colored registration sticker. Just like boats, the assigned unit numbers would stay with the vehicle when ownership is transferred, the colored annual stickers would be affixed to the unit's plate, and the unit would be easily identifiable from both directions on the road.
Before I formally submit this to my local legislators, what do you think?
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Post by greghopper on Sept 19, 2017 9:34:36 GMT -5
You do realize the BMV is very hanging on now.... not sure they need more work
BTW..... what's wrong with what we have now? Something not working?
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Post by firstwd on Sept 19, 2017 13:22:11 GMT -5
You do realize the BMV is very hanging on now.... not sure they need more work BTW..... what's wrong with what we have now? Something not working? The BMV already does the ORV registrations so there really wouldn't be any more work. From my experience, as an LEO and property manager, the current sticker system makes it nearly impossible to catch the ones who truly are causing problems. With the small sticker on the side of the machine it is easy to cover up or hide where it should be. With cars and trucks an officer or citizen can get a plate number and follow up at a later time instead of getting into a dangerous pursuit. With the current identification methods for ORVs it is nearly impossible to identify and follow up. We have dealt with lots of issues with trespassers, racing on the roads, and kids driving on the roads. This would allow those machines to be identified, identify the ones who are not in registration compliance, and maybe more importantly identify those who are in compliance without having to stop them. |
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Post by greghopper on Sept 19, 2017 14:04:55 GMT -5
There be more work because people will loose there plates on the off roading where now you place a permanent sticker that don't fall off.... plus you will have people moving the plates around to other ORV where that's not so easy now with a sticker!
Do ORV come equipped with plate holders or will the owner have to makeshift something to hold the plate on?
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Post by dusty20 on Sept 19, 2017 17:27:15 GMT -5
I haven't looked into this too much but I bought a new ranger this year. the dealer registered it for me much like a car would be. I haven't seen anything in the mail such as a sticker or anything. If I look online there is a county by county listing of who is allowed to drive them on road. www.in.gov/dnr/outdoor/4431.htm |
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Post by firstwd on Sept 19, 2017 17:58:47 GMT -5
There be more work because people will loose there plates on the off roading where now you place a permanent sticker that don't fall off.... plus you will have people moving the plates around to other ORV where that's not so easy now with a sticker! Do ORV come equipped with plate holders or will the owner have to makeshift something to hold the plate on? Stickers can be scratched off too. Plates fall off or stolen off cars now. That's why I said to keep the number and plate on the machine for life. Any plate/number ran that doesn't match the machine it's on falls under a false and fictitious registration and is a ticketable offense. |
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Post by nfalls116 on Sept 19, 2017 18:15:53 GMT -5
Unmmm if it ain't broke, don't fix it
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Post by greghopper on Sept 19, 2017 19:13:51 GMT -5
There be more work because people will loose there plates on the off roading where now you place a permanent sticker that don't fall off.... plus you will have people moving the plates around to other ORV where that's not so easy now with a sticker! Do ORV come equipped with plate holders or will the owner have to makeshift something to hold the plate on? Stickers can be scratched off too. Plates fall off or stolen off cars now. That's why I said to keep the number and plate on the machine for life. Any plate/number ran that doesn't match the machine it's on falls under a false and fictitious registration and is a ticketable offense. What about numbers like boats have where the owner put them on and use the same sticker where using now on ORV..... no extra work for anyone but owner and the numbers are stuck on! No makeshift lic holder. |
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Post by firstwd on Sept 20, 2017 6:21:53 GMT -5
Stickers can be scratched off too. Plates fall off or stolen off cars now. That's why I said to keep the number and plate on the machine for life. Any plate/number ran that doesn't match the machine it's on falls under a false and fictitious registration and is a ticketable offense. What about numbers like boats have where the owner put them on and use the same sticker where using now on ORV..... no extra work for anyone but owner and the numbers are stuck on! No makeshift lic holder. Where would they put those number? How would that make a moving ORV identifiable by law enforcement going down the road? |
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Post by firstwd on Sept 20, 2017 6:22:42 GMT -5
Unmmm if it ain't broke, don't fix it It might not be broke in some peoples opinion, but it doesn't work in others'. |
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Post by dusty20 on Sept 20, 2017 7:25:19 GMT -5
I live in a county that I cannot legally take my ranger down the road, if they did change the laws then I would expect the rules to change so it is the same statewide and I would expect to be able to drive it on road. I really don't expect to register my vehicle for using it on my land same as I'm not planning to register my trailers that I have that I use to get wood and use on my land and not on road.
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Post by greghopper on Sept 20, 2017 9:15:10 GMT -5
What about numbers like boats have where the owner put them on and use the same sticker where using now on ORV..... no extra work for anyone but owner and the numbers are stuck on! No makeshift lic holder. Where would they put those number? How would that make a moving ORV identifiable by law enforcement going down the road? Any one place place will be fine .... we only have the car plate in one spot and the seems to be work just fine it tells who is legal and who is not and who's vehicle it is! No use in reinventing the wheel! |
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Post by firstwd on Sept 20, 2017 14:23:45 GMT -5
I live in a county that I cannot legally take my ranger down the road, if they did change the laws then I would expect the rules to change so it is the same statewide and I would expect to be able to drive it on road. I really don't expect to register my vehicle for using it on my land same as I'm not planning to register my trailers that I have that I use to get wood and use on my land and not on road. Actually the law say any ORV 2004 or newer is required to be registered. The DNR just doesn't enforce it unless it is caught on the road. |
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Post by esshup on Sept 21, 2017 8:48:44 GMT -5
firstwd, the only thing I'd add was that the license plate would have to be lit at night and visible if on the road (not covered in dirt), same as a car/truck.
I live in a county where they cannot be used on the road but that doesn't stop people. Every Thursday/Friday/Saturday (it varies) a group of 6-10 go down the road here anywhere from 9pm to 1am and some aren't exactly quiet.....
If they are going to use the road, then they should be licensed. Doesn't a part of the license fee go to keeping the roads maintained?
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Post by firstwd on Sept 21, 2017 16:22:52 GMT -5
firstwd, the only thing I'd add was that the license plate would have to be lit at night and visible if on the road (not covered in dirt), same as a car/truck. I live in a county where they cannot be used on the road but that doesn't stop people. Every Thursday/Friday/Saturday (it varies) a group of 6-10 go down the road here anywhere from 9pm to 1am and some aren't exactly quiet..... If they are going to use the road, then they should be licensed. Doesn't a part of the license fee go to keeping the roads maintained? Yes. We have a lot of the same issues around here except we are a county road use County. The biggest problem is identifying those in violation and the kids running from the police. Most of the time it is just too dangerous for the officers to pursue them. If they were plated the officers could follow up later.or even wait for them to come home. Mopeds were required to have a plate a few years ago, as well as insurance I believe. ORVs are required to be registered and have insurance to be on the roads. I just think a plate would make things much more consistent. |
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Post by nfalls116 on Sept 21, 2017 20:58:49 GMT -5
firstwd, the only thing I'd add was that the license plate would have to be lit at night and visible if on the road (not covered in dirt), same as a car/truck. I live in a county where they cannot be used on the road but that doesn't stop people. Every Thursday/Friday/Saturday (it varies) a group of 6-10 go down the road here anywhere from 9pm to 1am and some aren't exactly quiet..... If they are going to use the road, then they should be licensed. Doesn't a part of the license fee go to keeping the roads maintained? Yes. We have a lot of the same issues around here except we are a county road use County. The biggest problem is identifying those in violation and the kids running from the police. Most of the time it is just too dangerous for the officers to pursue them. If they were plated the officers could follow up later.or even wait for them to come home. Mopeds were required to have a plate a few years ago, as well as insurance I believe. ORVs are required to be registered and have insurance to be on the roads. I just think a plate would make things much more consistent. Until you just flip your plate up on your seat and then smokey won't be able to track you down any better and then when you are being good boy flip it down and drive like everyone else. I'd say most people breaking laws don't care about new laws especially misdemeanors. |
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Post by firstwd on Sept 21, 2017 21:03:03 GMT -5
Yes. We have a lot of the same issues around here except we are a county road use County. The biggest problem is identifying those in violation and the kids running from the police. Most of the time it is just too dangerous for the officers to pursue them. If they were plated the officers could follow up later.or even wait for them to come home. Mopeds were required to have a plate a few years ago, as well as insurance I believe. ORVs are required to be registered and have insurance to be on the roads. I just think a plate would make things much more consistent. Until you just flip your plate up on your seat and then smokey won't be able to track you down any better and then when you are being good boy flip it down and drive like everyone else. I'd say most people breaking laws don't care about new laws especially misdemeanors. True, but if they have to have an actual plate those who are compliant won't be getting stopped to make sure they are in compliance. Plus it makes it easier for my trail cameras to catch the idiots. That's why I like the home made plates better than the BMV plates. The BMV plates reflect even the red flash cameras and glares out the plate number. Home made plates usually don't because of the material. |
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Post by bill9068 on Sept 26, 2017 18:21:32 GMT -5
I live in a county that I cannot legally take my ranger down the road, if they did change the laws then I would expect the rules to change so it is the same statewide and I would expect to be able to drive it on road. I really don't expect to register my vehicle for using it on my land same as I'm not planning to register my trailers that I have that I use to get wood and use on my land and not on road. Actually the law say any ORV 2004 or newer is required to be registered. The DNR just doesn't enforce it unless it is caught on the road. I may be all wet here, but Isnt the registration anything 5 years or newer? Thought I read that somewhere. |
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Post by greghopper on Sept 26, 2017 18:25:35 GMT -5
Actually the law say any ORV 2004 or newer is required to be registered. The DNR just doesn't enforce it unless it is caught on the road. I may be all wet here, but Isnt the registration anything 5 years or newer? Thought I read that somewhere. read here ...... www.in.gov/dnr/outdoor/4229.htm |
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Post by bill9068 on Sept 26, 2017 18:30:11 GMT -5
Got It, Is that for public property or private also? |
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