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Post by swilk on Sept 8, 2017 9:03:00 GMT -5
I have no preference points in any state. Looking for a DIY archery / rifle hunt. Not afraid to pay a trespass fee ... and not afraid to put some miles on my boots.
Ive not been out west since the 2008 season and am getting the itch again. I have a couple of points in Colorado for elk but want to check that antelope box off of my "to hunt" list.
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Post by steiny on Sept 8, 2017 9:06:58 GMT -5
I just received an email from Jack Atcheson & Sons (hunt brokers) for a very reasonably priced, do it yourself antelope hunt in eastern Colorado.
Hard to beat eastern Wyoming. Learn the rules and get some maps and you can hunt public ground no charge, have near 100% odds of drawing a tag, and very high odds of success. Have done this several times, and you can combine with muleys.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Sept 8, 2017 9:17:51 GMT -5
Wyoming splits their NR licenses, 40% to a "Special" draw and 60% to a "Regular" draw. You must choose one or the other when you apply. The only difference is that the special draw cost more to apply in, usually giving you better odds.
You can buy a point ($30) in WY between now and end of October, do that. Tag prices are going up in Wyoming next year, a special tag will cost $614. The price increase might help draw odds a bit. With 1 point and applying in the special draw, you might be able to pull a decent tag next year and not need to worry about a trespass fee.
The area I'm hunting this year (42) was almost 100% for folks in the special draw with one point, and 100% for folks with 2 points in the regular draw. With the price increase, I would expect draw odds to be similar or maybe even slightly better next year. There are tens of thousands of acres of accessible land that is in good antelope country. I'll write up a report and pics when I get back in mid-October.
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Post by swilk on Sept 8, 2017 9:33:09 GMT -5
Never really laid eyes on a Wyoming game map till now .... area 42 looks like what they describe as a checker board of BLM and private land over much of it. Is there a gauge for how big each of those squares is?
Ill put in for a point ....
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Sept 8, 2017 9:45:03 GMT -5
Never really laid eyes on a Wyoming game map till now .... area 42 looks like what they describe as a checker board of BLM and private land over much of it. Is there a gauge for how big each of those squares is? Ill put in for a point .... Each square is 1 square mile, so 640 acres. However, there is a lot of private land enrolled in programs that allow free public access. There are several Walk-In Areas that you just show up and hunt, one of these is 29k contiguous acres. There is also a Hunter Management Area that you must obtain a free permit to hunt that is 62k acres, about half of that in Area 42. |
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Post by esshup on Sept 21, 2017 16:03:33 GMT -5
 on putting in for a preference point in Wy. I need to guy mine for this year (Elk, Mulie and Antelope) and talk to my buddy in figuring out where to go for next year. We are maxed out on Elk preference points, so we have to pick wisely. We're both sitting on a number of Mule Deer and Antelope points too, so finding an area to hunt shouldn't be a problem. My cousin lives in Casper and knows a number of hunters around the state so getting the pulse on a great goat spot should be no problem. Elk, well, we will have to go with an outfitter. We don't want to burn our points on a DIY because of the success rates for a good bull elk. |
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Post by ukwil on Sept 21, 2017 17:20:57 GMT -5
Wyoming splits their NR licenses, 40% to a "Special" draw and 60% to a "Regular" draw. You must choose one or the other when you apply. The only difference is that the special draw cost more to apply in, usually giving you better odds. You can buy a point ($30) in WY between now and end of October, do that. Tag prices are going up in Wyoming next year, a special tag will cost $614. The price increase might help draw odds a bit. With 1 point and applying in the special draw, you might be able to pull a decent tag next year and not need to worry about a trespass fee. The area I'm hunting this year (42) was almost 100% for folks in the special draw with one point, and 100% for folks with 2 points in the regular draw. With the price increase, I would expect draw odds to be similar or maybe even slightly better next year. There are tens of thousands of acres of accessible land that is in good antelope country. I'll write up a report and pics when I get back in mid-October. What he said. I'm leaving tomorrow afternoon for my first antelope hunt next week in Wyoming. I was lucky and drew a buck and 2 doe tags. |
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Post by tenring on Sept 22, 2017 7:29:19 GMT -5
Years ago I did quite a bit of research on just who owned what in SE Wyoming, and got on to several sites that provided several types of maps. Privately owned, BLM,USFS,and the like. Got several types, and then narrowed them down, and found that driving out to the middle of nowhere there was huge areas on both sides of the road that were privately owned but then the road cut across the corner of a section [640 acres] that was BLM owned, and that led to a half dozen sections that were BLM ground, and up the road a few miles access to thousands of acres could be had simply pulling of the side of the road and access was guaranteed by law. You might see cattle grazing on some of this land which leads you to believe that you can't go there without getting permission. Wrong! Lot of landowners buy grazing rights to thousands of acres of BLM ground but that's all. You still have the right by law to hunt that ground. Takes a lot of home work to figure it out, but in the long run it's worth the time and effort. It can get complicated also, when you come to where the four corners of a section come together and you want to go to another BLM section but there is private property on your right and left [think checker board] so you just climb over where all the barb wire comes together. Did your arm, leg, or butt swing over private land? You just committed a trespassing violation. Yes, it went to court and the hunter lost! Takes a lot of sitting in front of your computer to find all of this information, but it's there. You'd be surprised that hundreds of thousands of acres in multiple states are locked up to this day due to the checker board ownership that happened in the 1800's and the hunting rights are leased to outfitters today.
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Post by esshup on Sept 22, 2017 9:26:54 GMT -5
^^^ . Then you have some outfitters who (unknowingly to the landowner)post "No Trespassing Leased to XYZ Outfitters" on the BLM side of the private land that is legally huntable because the landowner enrolled it into one of the State Programs. My cousin and I ran into that situation, and he knew the landowner and had permission. He called the landowner and the landowner was P  ED. "He said rip off all those signs you see and save them for me. I'm going and talking to the local law enforcement. I did NOT lease my land to them." |
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Post by js2397 on Dec 2, 2017 13:46:37 GMT -5
Here is an ownership map of Wyoming. gis.wyo.gov/parcels/A successful antelope hunt is pretty easy from my limited experience. There are a good number of animals on public ground and if you hunt hard all day for at least 4-5 days you should have a chance. There were four of us that hunted Friday evening to Sunday afternoon and we all killed one. Be prepared to do a lot of glassing and a lot of walking. |
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Post by bullseye69 on Dec 4, 2017 5:11:43 GMT -5
I have no preference points in any state. Looking for a DIY archery / rifle hunt. Not afraid to pay a trespass fee ... and not afraid to put some miles on my boots. Ive not been out west since the 2008 season and am getting the itch again. I have a couple of points in Colorado for elk but want to check that antelope box off of my "to hunt" list. My buddy in WY just sent me the new updated prices on WY tags. SOBS raised prices by 20% up to 76%. Antelope (regular) was $270 ,now $324 Antelope (special) was $510 now $612 |
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Post by hugedogleg on Dec 23, 2017 21:29:33 GMT -5
If you want to bow hunt you could probably draw in New Mexico. Rifle is tough but archery is about 95 percent. At least back when I was hunting out there
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