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Post by treetop on Jul 25, 2017 6:20:14 GMT -5
And that's exactly what the stands looked like at the end of the race. Not too many hardcore fans left at the end I'd say. They looked that way at the start |
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Post by greghopper on Jul 25, 2017 6:28:11 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of the overtime "line" rule. Are you wanting old school where they race back to the start/finish line on every caution, or do you like the three attempts at a green white checkers? NASCAR should have went to caution as soon as cars turned around in turn 2. They didn't. They not only let the leader cross the overtime line, but let the 3rd place car get to it before they threw the caution. If they had put the caution out earlier the race would have still been over, it would have just been called for darkness. That was actually a good call to wait and see if the track was going to be blocked before throwing the yellow ..... no one wanted the race to end because of darkness! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 6:48:59 GMT -5
The darkness has already fallen on racing. Each year darker and darker. Technology of other transportation will put cars in the junkyard and the millennials generation will see the transformation. There will be racing, just not in cars.
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Post by hornzilla on Jul 25, 2017 6:57:13 GMT -5
The darkness has already fallen on racing. Each year darker and darker. Technology of other transportation will put cars in the junkyard and the millennials generation will see the transformation. There will be racing, just not in cars. Not in any of our lifetimes. Racing will be here for years to come. |
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Post by greghopper on Jul 25, 2017 7:04:05 GMT -5
Exactly.... the millennials are already racing in many forms of sport!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 7:17:50 GMT -5
The darkness has already fallen on racing. Each year darker and darker. Technology of other transportation will put cars in the junkyard and the millennials generation will see the transformation. There will be racing, just not in cars. Not in any of our lifetimes. Racing will be here for years to come. The word "engine"/"combustion" will fade away and I'm not talking electric. Today's generation will talk about the old combustion engines like we talk about horse and buggy. |
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Post by nfalls116 on Jul 25, 2017 7:57:24 GMT -5
Not in any of our lifetimes. Racing will be here for years to come. The word "engine"/"combustion" will fade away and I'm not talking electric. Today's generation will take about the old combustion engines like we talk about horse and buggy. Still plenty of horse and buggy in use around me |
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Post by greghopper on Jul 25, 2017 8:08:15 GMT -5
Be nice if we still had Horse racing now days..... O wait!
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Post by featherduster on Jul 25, 2017 12:23:11 GMT -5
Sundays race had more drama then you could ever expect from a race,yes the stands were a bit empty for a stock car race however dirt track racing is growing by leaps and bounds.
There is a dirt track race just about every night on MAV-TV and the sprint car numbers are growing.
Folks like watching everything in one evening qualifying, heat races and the A-main with all of this ending before 10:00 at most tracks.
One of the things that makes sprint car racing so good is it generally takes only a few mins to clean up a crash and your back to racing. The other thing I like about sprints is that for the most part a sprinter can be repaired in short time and return to the competition.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 13:04:37 GMT -5
Sundays race had more drama then you could ever expect from a race,yes the stands were a bit empty for a stock car race however dirt track racing is growing by leaps and bounds. There is a dirt track race just about every night on MAV-TV and the sprint car numbers are growing. Folks like watching everything in one evening qualifying, heat races and the A-main with all of this ending before 10:00 at most tracks. One of the things that makes sprint car racing so good is it generally takes only a few mins to clean up a crash and your back to racing. The other thing I like about sprints is that for the most part a sprinter can be repaired in short time and return to the competition. Not true fixing their cars. They have 5 minutes and if not fixed, out of the race. Old days are long gone and Sunday was the most boring race ever. Took forever, especially the end. Car restrictions has ruined the race. No one can pass anymore and now basically one good lane, sometimes two. Racing today is nowhere close to the 70's and 80's racing. Now the cars are slower and all look the same. Nothing new. |
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Post by greghopper on Jul 25, 2017 13:41:19 GMT -5
Yeah the good old days when there was only a hand full of cars on the lead lap .... SMH ... perfect racing for a premier series!
BTW..... the TV ratings where up 20% for Sunday's race.... millions watching!
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Post by firstwd on Jul 25, 2017 15:58:05 GMT -5
Sundays race had more drama then you could ever expect from a race,yes the stands were a bit empty for a stock car race however dirt track racing is growing by leaps and bounds. There is a dirt track race just about every night on MAV-TV and the sprint car numbers are growing. Folks like watching everything in one evening qualifying, heat races and the A-main with all of this ending before 10:00 at most tracks. One of the things that makes sprint car racing so good is it generally takes only a few mins to clean up a crash and your back to racing. The other thing I like about sprints is that for the most part a sprinter can be repaired in short time and return to the competition. I truly wish NASCAR would go this route. Make every Cup race a Saturday night race, start an hour long practice at 10 am, qualifying at noon and start the race ceremony at 2/2:30. If the track doesn't have lights either install them or don't host a race. |
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Jul 25, 2017 16:52:27 GMT -5
Yeah the good old days when there was only a hand full of cars on the lead lap .... SMH ... perfect racing for a premier series! BTW..... the TV ratings where up 20% for Sunday's race.... millions watching! What are the ratings up from? |
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Post by greghopper on Jul 25, 2017 17:59:01 GMT -5
From prior years races at Brickyard
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Post by nfalls116 on Jul 25, 2017 20:30:05 GMT -5
As much fun as I have poking fun at NASCAR I do the same for all sports besides rally racing, water polo and stihl timbersports.
But I feel like NASCAR has contributed more to society than NFL or NBA or MLB ever will.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 20:52:26 GMT -5
Yeah the good old days when there was only a hand full of cars on the lead lap .... SMH ... perfect racing for a premier series! BTW..... the TV ratings where up 20% for Sunday's race.... millions watching! Rating are way down over the years. At onetime all sports put together outside of racing did not total the racing fans. In fact women made over 60% of the fans in the hay days of racing. Look those facts up. P&G was once a big time sponsor. |
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Post by nfalls116 on Jul 25, 2017 21:03:05 GMT -5
Yeah the good old days when there was only a hand full of cars on the lead lap .... SMH ... perfect racing for a premier series! BTW..... the TV ratings where up 20% for Sunday's race.... millions watching! Rating are way down over the years. At onetime all sports put together outside of racing did not total the racing fans. In fact women made over 60% of the fans in the hay days of racing. Look those facts up. P&G was once a big time sponsor. Cite your sources so we can look it up easier |
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Post by (Not Ronald) Reagan on Jul 26, 2017 5:55:32 GMT -5
Rating are way down over the years. At onetime all sports put together outside of racing did not total the racing fans. In fact women made over 60% of the fans in the hay days of racing. Look those facts up. P&G was once a big time sponsor. Cite your sources so we can look it up easier lol really what other sport was going on though? The Open was over, maybe cricket or lacrosse was on but still... I'd like to see the sources still however |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 6:34:07 GMT -5
Cite your sources so we can look it up easier lol really what other sport was going on though? The Open was over, maybe cricket or lacrosse was on but still... I'd like to see the sources still however The internet didn't exist back then, but I will search the library (good old days) and dig up some paper facts. I think it was in the mid to late 80's just before restrictor plates. I know when Waltrip won int he TIDE car it was big. Early 90's was the peak. Putting 1" plates and how it changed the race forever was exciting at the early years. Now the whole car is restricted. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 6:41:42 GMT -5
NASCAR biggest mistake was restricting cars and not building better courses. They did in the old days when they had wooden tracks, then bigger asphalt tracks, but they stopped at that. Tracks today should be 2 plus miles and speeds over 300.
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