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Post by brad30110 on Dec 2, 2016 14:22:01 GMT -5
What is the general opinion about tree stands on public land? I scouted some public land today and found some ladder stands in some great areas. I looked for a name and number but none of them had one. I really don't want to drag a stand in there if there is one already there.
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Post by chasingtails on Dec 2, 2016 14:25:33 GMT -5
You'd get your butt chewed out if you were in mine, proabably a swift kick in the rear too.
Its just unsportman like you don't know if that person going to show up. Most of them are probably shotgun hunters but you never know.
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Post by brad30110 on Dec 2, 2016 14:51:28 GMT -5
You'd get your butt chewed out if you were in mine, proabably a swift kick in the rear too. Its just unsportman like you don't know if that person going to show up. Most of them are probably shotgun hunters but you never know. Here is my issue. It's PUBLIC land. I personally think it's unsportsman like to leave your stand on public grounds. If I was the nice guy and gave every stand in the woods a couple hundred yards of buffer I wouldn't be able to hunt anything. I have always tagged my stands on public land with name and number. A simple phone call to be nice and you ensure your not going to mess up someone's hunt. Look at it this way, you have a walmart parking lot. I put a cone in a parking spot and claim only I can park there. Then when there was no other parking spaces you move my cone and park in the spot. Should I get ed in a public parking lot? So I walked a few miles of woods, found about 15 stands. Some are have not been used in years, others look like they have been used within the last month. There is one or two different locations that are deep and in some thick stuff that I really like but have ladder stands in vicinity of the stand location I wanted. Maybe it gets hunted a lot or the stand was only hunted once the whole year. With out a name and number on the stand I can only assume.
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Post by luckyhounddog on Dec 2, 2016 14:58:37 GMT -5
This is where you have to wonder if the name tag could have fallen off or if it was carelessly left behind from a previous year. Chances are it's being used. Hopping into someone else's stand is a bad idea at best. Personally, I spend a lot of time scouting an area throughout the year. Then, when late August comes around I start erecting stands and clearing shooting lanes. Fighting mosquitoes and ticks. Mind you this is on private property. For me to show up to hunt and have someone in my stand would be a bad day. It's just my opinion that you shouldn't be looking the stands over hard enough to find the name tag. That's the C.O.'s or park's job. I think a climber stand would be the best for hunting public ground. Run up a tree in a few different areas and clear your lanes. That way if someone is hunting one spot unexpectedly you have backup trees to ascend. Good luck.
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Post by luckyhounddog on Dec 2, 2016 15:05:24 GMT -5
Didn't mean for it to sound like I was accusing you of hijacking someone's stand site. After rereading my post it may come off that way. If the stands are looking unattended on public ground, then local C.O. or official should be notified. Pretty sure there are rules about leaving stands more than a season on public ground. Can someone educate me on this that spends time on said grounds.
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Post by brad30110 on Dec 2, 2016 15:10:24 GMT -5
This is where you have to wonder if the name tag could have fallen off or if it was carelessly left behind from a previous year. Chances are it's being used. Hopping into someone else's stand is a bad idea at best. Personally, I spend a lot of time scouting an area throughout the year. Then, when late August comes around I start erecting stands and clearing shooting lanes. Fighting mosquitoes and ticks. Mind you this is on private property. For me to show up to hunt and have someone in my stand would be a bad day. It's just my opinion that you shouldn't be looking the stands over hard enough to find the name tag. That's the C.O.'s or park's job. I think a climber stand would be the best for hunting public ground. Run up a tree in a few different areas and clear your lanes. That way if someone is hunting one spot unexpectedly you have backup trees to ascend. Good luck. I fully understand the private land perspective. No one should be in my stand on my PRIVATE land. I am talking PUBLIC land. I actually hunt a summit climber on public land but from today's scouting that I did I see a huge issue with the amount of ladder and lock on stands in the woods. Some new in good condition but others were rusted, broken and dangerous. Basically littering nice land. So if I go out and put four ladder stands on public land, I should fully expect no one to touch it nor hunt within eye sight of it even though I only might hunt each stand once a year??
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Post by brad30110 on Dec 2, 2016 15:11:59 GMT -5
Didn't mean for it to sound like I was accusing you of hijacking someone's stand site. After rereading my post it may come off that way. If the stands are looking unattended on public ground, then local C.O. or official should be notified. Pretty sure there are rules about leaving stands more than a season on public ground. Can someone educate me on this that spends time on said grounds. I know Indiana says all stands should be removed by Jan 10.
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Post by brad30110 on Dec 2, 2016 15:13:03 GMT -5
This is from the DNR. The date range to set up and leave portable tree stands and ground blinds on state and federal lands is now noon on Sept. 15 through Jan. 10 the next year.
Another change this year is that hunters now can mark their stands and blinds with their DNR- issued customer identification number or their name and address.
The previous rule allowed hunters to leave portable tree stands or blinds overnight on state and federal properties between Sept. 1 and Jan 10. and required the owner to mark the blind with name, address and telephone number.
Any tree stand or ground blind placed before noon on Sept. 15 on state- and federal-owned lands is subject to removal. All blinds and stands must be removed by Jan. 11.
Tree and ground blinds cannot be permanent. Fasteners or pole climbers cannot enter the tree more than one-half inch.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Dec 2, 2016 15:18:59 GMT -5
I wouldn't hunt from someone else's stand out of courtesy. If it ain't mine, I don't touch it. But on the flip side, I also wouldn't erect a stand on public without assuming that there's a good chance of it being used or even stolen.
Bottom line, if you decide to hunt one, thoroughly inspect it for safety before climbing, and be prepared for a possible confrontation.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 2, 2016 15:21:21 GMT -5
IMO .. Slapping up a stand does not reserve that area for that person only. On public ground its first come, first served. That stand might have been used one or two days..and sit idle the rest of the season.
All stands on public ground is supposed to be tagged with name, address and phone number. If not, they are illegal .
Mixed emotions on hunting another persons stand on public ground. IF I did and the owner comes along i would get down and move.
I would expect the same if I came in and someone was in my stand..
Deer are not worth getting into a fight over..
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Post by luckyhounddog on Dec 2, 2016 15:30:53 GMT -5
Not sure Brad is even considering hunting from one of them. Hope not. More like he'd like them out of the way if they're not being used. There is only so much area. I think I would find an area that looks promising and if there is a stand with fresh straps and mud on the rungs I would avoid within 75-100 yds. If the stand is dilapidated or obviously not been freshened this year. Climb the tree you want. Then, after you put the venison on the ground contact the proper folks to have the unmaintained stand or stands looked into.
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Post by brad30110 on Dec 2, 2016 15:44:57 GMT -5
Not sure Brad is even considering hunting from one of them. Hope not. More like he'd like them out of the way if they're not being used. There is only so much area. I think I would find an area that looks promising and if there is a stand with fresh straps and mud on the rungs I would avoid within 75-100 yds. If the stand is dilapidated or obviously not been freshened this year. Climb the tree you want. Then, after you put the venison on the ground contact the proper folks to have the unmaintained stand or stands looked into. I personally wouldn't hunt any of those stands out of respect for their personal property and my safety but I do think they should be marked with name and number so I can have a chance at contacting them before I hunt the area to be respectful. If I put up a more permanent stand on public land, it kind of just became a community stand. I wouldn't get y if someone was in it if I walked up. Obviously they made the effort to get there earlier than me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 15:45:42 GMT -5
When I hunted public land I would seek and find the stands and try to guess if it is a used stand or minimal used stand. You can tell somewhat by the path and how much the ground is pushed down. I would map the stands and find a place 75 yards away from all of the mapped stands. Even better if it is a used stand. Deer know where they are and will move 50 to 100 away and travel that route. I would find a good tree in that area. Take the path less taken.
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Post by js2397 on Dec 2, 2016 16:49:19 GMT -5
First come gets the spot. The presence of a stand doesn't reserve the spot. That's how public land is supposed to work.
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Post by medic22 on Dec 2, 2016 17:24:50 GMT -5
Its first come first served in the area, NOT first come first served to someone elses stands.
That said, DNR states "clearly" marked.
The term clearly is subjective.......my stands are clearly marked with my hunter ID, but you have to get a lot closer than you should to find it.
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Post by thebellcompany on Dec 2, 2016 17:37:03 GMT -5
Time of year determines a stands usage as well. Late in season I wouldn't feel bad about setting up near a stand, if a hunter comes in we have a short conversation, I move my stand, easy. I get around my woods pretty good, I talk to the other guys I see. We keep it civil. Sometimes you don't know an area is hunted till you check it out, hang a stand see what happens! In my experience there are always stands put up but rarely hunted, so their presence doesn't bother me. A tip for you though, lock up your stands. I had 2 walk away on me last year.
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Post by jimstc on Dec 2, 2016 18:23:48 GMT -5
Simply put, if it isn't my stand I won't use it but I sure will hunt as close as necessary to be successful. If I get there first I have priority. A stand has no ownership rights on the ground.
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Post by duff on Dec 2, 2016 18:29:06 GMT -5
If you put stands on public land expect it to be used.
I would guess dnr will soon not allow hang on stands due to a jerk buying a few cheap stands and stake out his claim m
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Post by thebellcompany on Dec 2, 2016 18:52:18 GMT -5
Ya don't be the guy that puts up 5 stands. Put up 1. I've got a system of taking my stand down and easily moving it to the next tree when the situation dictates a move.
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Post by jackryan on Dec 2, 2016 19:30:10 GMT -5
What is the general opinion about tree stands on public land? I scouted some public land today and found some ladder stands in some great areas. I looked for a name and number but none of them had one. I really don't want to drag a stand in there if there is one already there. If they are mine, use it like it was your own. Don't steal it. Don't move it. Don't cut down a bunch of stupid "shooting lanes" around it. I'd prefer you don't smoke in it but shoot what ever you want to from it. I don't want to carry one all the way back there every day either is why I left it there. You can't buy public land for the price of a tree stand.
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