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Post by Woody Williams on Jun 11, 2016 19:44:26 GMT -5
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Post by medic22 on Jun 11, 2016 20:44:01 GMT -5
Ive only shot at one deer with a bow. She didnt string jump, she limb jumped. That is when I released and my limb smacked the cross beam in my blind, she jumped. Lol
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Post by dbd870 on Jun 12, 2016 5:08:29 GMT -5
I've seen a crossbow video showing the same thing.
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Post by INhuntin on Jun 12, 2016 7:52:38 GMT -5
Yes they do that but it is named wrong it isn't jumping the string it is ducking the string. The first doe I shot with a bow did that it was from about 28yds & yes I had the poundage cranked down. It was about three years ago & I was just getting back into bows so my arm/shoulder wasn't up to pulling full poundage yet. She ducked but not far enough. It turned into a spine shot, she went down right away & after a couple minutes of her screaming she started to drag herself out towards the road with her front legs. I let her because it was less work for me to load her up. She went about 75yds & I took a 2nd shot to put her down. it entered on the right at the back of the ribbs & came out just before the hips on her left. It was a quarting towards shot that went through three vertebrae. The arrow came out the other side but the broadhead didn't. The broadhead was just under the skin. I was amazed the cheap NAP Thunderhead broadhead was still in one piece it had only popped out of the arrow shaft.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Jun 12, 2016 9:07:52 GMT -5
I haven't had it happen to me yet with my crossbow, but I did watch a hunting show where the husband told the wife to take the crossbow. As I remember it, he said this because she was in a ground-blind that day. Of course, she didn't listen to him and the buck ducked the bolt. The shot was on target when they played the tape back in slow motion, just a tad bit too slow.
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Post by urbanguy on Jun 17, 2016 14:32:38 GMT -5
For this reason i aim for the arm pit
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Post by trapperdave on Jun 19, 2016 13:04:39 GMT -5
Ditch those noisy compounds for a whisper quiet longbow
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Post by scrub-buster on Jun 19, 2016 13:19:45 GMT -5
Ditch those noisy compounds for a whisper quiet longbow My selfbow buck didn't even realize he had an arrow hit him in the heart when he walked by.
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Post by ms660 on Jun 19, 2016 13:52:25 GMT -5
I think it the deer's natural flee reaction to a unusual noise close to them, duck and flee. They are not evading the arrow and probably don't even realize one is on the way. Just a deer's natural flee response to danger. The quicker your projectile gets there the less the have time to duck. I was up in my stand a few years ago and got out a candy bar that was in my pack. It was nasty, been in there no telling how long. I was going to pitch it and noticed a couple small does heading my way. They came directly under my tree. I dropped the old candy bar right in the center of one does back without making a noise. She didn't react until it landed on her and then it wasn't what I expected. She jumps and trotted a few steps, looked around and went back to browsing.
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Post by swetz on Jun 19, 2016 14:18:58 GMT -5
It turned into a spine shot, she went down right away & after a couple minutes of her screaming she started to drag herself out towards the road with her front legs. I let her because it was less work for me to load her up. She went about 75yds & I took a 2nd shot to put her down You know man this story doesn't exactly paint yourself or hunting in general in the best light.
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Post by scrub-buster on Jun 19, 2016 15:26:30 GMT -5
It turned into a spine shot, she went down right away & after a couple minutes of her screaming she started to drag herself out towards the road with her front legs. I let her because it was less work for me to load her up. She went about 75yds & I took a 2nd shot to put her down You know man this story doesn't exactly paint yourself or hunting in general in the best light. You are absolutely correct Swetz. No way could I watch a doe scream for a couple of minutes and then start dragging herself away. A quick and humane death should be top priority over reducing your dragging distance. And is it just me or does that doe look like a button buck?
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Post by swetz on Jun 19, 2016 15:27:56 GMT -5
Agreed.
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Post by trapperdave on Jun 19, 2016 15:45:39 GMT -5
I think it the deer's natural flee reaction to a unusual noise close to them, duck and flee. They are not evading the arrow and probably don't even realize one is on the way. Just a deer's natural flee response to danger. The quicker your projectile gets there the less the have time to duck. I was up in my stand a few years ago and got out a candy bar that was in my pack. It was nasty, been in there no telling how long. I was going to pitch it and noticed a couple small does heading my way. They came directly under my tree. I dropped the old candy bar right in the center of one does back without making a noise. She didn't react until it landed on her and then it wasn't what I expected. She jumps and trotted a few steps, looked around and went back to browsing. You're arrow has no chance of beating a deer's reaction time
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Post by Woody Williams on Jun 19, 2016 15:58:51 GMT -5
I've bow killed close to 75 deer and don't ever recall a deer "jumping or ducking the string". I've hit some where I didn't want to but that was me not movement of the deer. I think a lot of missed and bad hits are written off as "jumping the string". I also believe that a lot of the "hit it too far back" reports are shooting at moving deer.. By the time your mind days "shoot", you pull the release trigger (or release the string) and the arrow gets there the deer has moved enough to hit too far back. If one is not going to stop the deer with a loud BAHH then sight up forward to compensate for the deer's travel.
I also believe that deer react more to a close in noise than one say 40 yards away. They have a danger zone limit.
IMHO ..
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Post by tynimiller on Jun 20, 2016 7:03:12 GMT -5
Yes they react to the shot, and their reaction time is much faster than ours...however you shoot a calm deer and ANY bow will get there before they know what is going on. (too many shoot fully alert or jumpy or moving "IDIOTS") This is why I always aim for a low exit....they don't move I'm (depending on angle) hitting one lung and heart...they do move I've still got solid chance at high entrance side lung and low opposite side lung.
I think a lot of hunters need to understand angles of shot from stands and how to not aim to the entrance but to the exit...but that's branching into another topic.
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Post by jjas on Jun 20, 2016 7:13:16 GMT -5
Yes they react to the shot, and their reaction time is much faster than ours...however you shoot a calm deer and ANY bow will get there before they know what is going on. (too many shoot fully alert or jumpy or moving "IDIOTS") This is why I always aim for a low exit....they don't move I'm (depending on angle) hitting one lung and heart...they do move I've still got solid chance at high entrance side lung and low opposite side lung. I think a lot of hunters need to understand angles of shot from stands and how to not aim to the entrance but to the exit...but that's branching into another topic. I think you nailed it.
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Post by INhuntin on Jun 22, 2016 16:55:24 GMT -5
You know man this story doesn't exactly paint yourself or hunting in general in the best light. You are absolutely correct Swetz. No way could I watch a doe scream for a couple of minutes and then start dragging herself away. A quick and humane death should be top priority over reducing your dragging distance. And is it just me or does that doe look like a button buck? I agree & we all learn from our mistakes. It wasn't that I wanted her to suffer, it took time for me to realize that she was crawling off. Then I had to get out of the blind, around some fallen trees, then get in a good position to take a better shot than I took before. By the time I put her down she was close to the road. After re-reading what I had wrote, I see what you are talking about. That was not my intention at all. I always feel bad if I have to take more than one shot at an animal & have not had to since. I have the poundage all the way up now & shoot a mechanical broadhead. I haven't had another jump the string in the seasons since.
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Post by swetz on Jun 22, 2016 18:26:49 GMT -5
I'd like to believe you, but I'm skeptical given you said "I let her because it was less work for me to load her up."
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Post by trapperdave on Jun 22, 2016 22:31:05 GMT -5
a deer spends its whole life looking for something to run from.
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Post by tynimiller on Jun 23, 2016 12:17:19 GMT -5
a deer spends its whole life looking for something to run from. Well put...my walking Deer Alarm article touches on this. Well put Trapper!
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