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Post by M4Madness on Apr 30, 2016 20:34:10 GMT -5
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Post by drs on May 1, 2016 4:24:15 GMT -5
Wasn't up to IDNR. The legislatures tied their hands Then it sounds like you might want to vote these folks out-of-office, replace them with more "intelligent" Legislatures. If this is possible in Indiana. The IDNR didn't say that because that is not how the law was written. They were simply trying to explain what would be legal.
If you are looking for a definitive answer on why the law was worded the way it is you will need to ask the man who wrote it. I am not planning a Deer Hunt in Indiana. So your States laws regarding legal cartridges; makes me glad I now live and Hunt in Kentucky. The person or persons that decided on what caliber is legal vs ones not legal, apparently has a limited knowledge of cartridges and ballistics. IMHO. |
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Post by trapperdave on May 1, 2016 8:06:12 GMT -5
Its a four or five year TEST. Every journey begins with a single step  |
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Post by jjas on May 1, 2016 8:28:44 GMT -5
Its a four or five year TEST. Every journey begins with a single step Exactly.... For years people have said they wanted to hunt with hprs in the state of Indiana. I frankly thought that after last year when it was shelved, that it likely wouldn't be brought back up for years. Am I happy with the way it was passed? No, but it was passed. So in the end, while the list of cartridges does have some glaring omissions, if a person wants to hunt with an hpr it does include several common calibers (.243 Win, .308 Win, .30-30 Win and .30-06 Springfield) that should prove to be more than satisfactory for the task. |
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Post by M4Madness on May 1, 2016 8:40:08 GMT -5
Plain and simple, the Legislature picked five very common deer hunting cartridges. It was only after an error in the bill's language that it was opened up to everything with a .243" or .308" bullet.
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Post by firstwd on May 1, 2016 11:22:04 GMT -5
Wasn't up to IDNR. The legislatures tied their hands Then it sounds like you might want to vote these folks out-of-office, replace them with more "intelligent" Legislatures. If this is possible in Indiana. The IDNR didn't say that because that is not how the law was written. They were simply trying to explain what would be legal.
If you are looking for a definitive answer on why the law was worded the way it is you will need to ask the man who wrote it. I am not planning a Deer Hunt in Indiana. So your States laws regarding legal cartridges; makes me glad I now live and Hunt in Kentucky. The person or persons that decided on what caliber is legal vs ones not legal, apparently has a limited knowledge of cartridges and ballistics. IMHO. Then why such strong opinions? o.O |
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Post by swilk on May 1, 2016 11:49:53 GMT -5
Ive wondered that same thing for years.....
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Post by drs on May 2, 2016 4:23:58 GMT -5
Then it sounds like you might want to vote these folks out-of-office, replace them with more "intelligent" Legislatures. If this is possible in Indiana. I am not planning a Deer Hunt in Indiana. So your States laws regarding legal cartridges; makes me glad I now live and Hunt in Kentucky. The person or persons that decided on what caliber is legal vs ones not legal, apparently has a limited knowledge of cartridges and ballistics. IMHO. Then why such strong opinions? o.O Ive wondered that same thing for years..... Because, I hate to see you guys (fellow Sportsmen) get the "shaft" from a bunch of illogical law makers in Indiana. |
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Post by htownhunter on Jul 4, 2016 12:27:25 GMT -5
7.65x 53 Argentin is considered a legal caliber in Indiana or not.
My dad picked one up years ago he can't see much anymore. Might use it to get him a deer.
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Post by dbd870 on Jul 4, 2016 13:17:57 GMT -5
Anything using a .308 bullet is GTG
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Post by omegahunter on Jul 4, 2016 13:24:21 GMT -5
Any .243 or .308 or their metric equivalent (6mm or 7.62) is legal in addition to previously allowed rifles on private land; only previously allowed rifles on public land.
What happened to the 10mm bullet handgun addition?? Haven't seen this covered anywhere, just the 2 new rifle calibers.
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Post by cedarthicket on Jul 4, 2016 17:26:15 GMT -5
7.65x 53 Argentin is considered a legal caliber in Indiana or not. My dad picked one up years ago he can't see much anymore. Might use it to get him a deer. Your dad's rifle takes cartridges with bullets having diameters from roughly .311 to .313 inches. Please note in the cartridge name (7.65 x 53 Argentine) it takes bullets larger in diameter than 7.62 caliber cartridges, such as the 7.62 x 51 NATO (commercially named .308 Winchester, which takes bullets of .308 inches in diameter). Thus, it does not make the cut -- at least not this year. |
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Post by htownhunter on Jul 5, 2016 3:22:59 GMT -5
7.65x 53 Argentin is considered a legal caliber in Indiana or not. My dad picked one up years ago he can't see much anymore. Might use it to get him a deer. Your dad's rifle takes cartridges with bullets having diameters from roughly .311 to .313 inches. Please note in the cartridge name (7.65 x 53 Argentine) it takes bullets larger in diameter than 7.62 caliber cartridges, such as the 7.62 x 51 NATO (commercially named .308 Winchester, which takes bullets of .308 inches in diameter). Thus, it does not make the cut -- at least not this year. Thank for letting me know. |
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Post by tenring on Jul 5, 2016 7:24:15 GMT -5
Cut to the chase, just who wrote the specs for legal cartridges? An inquiring mind is curious!
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Post by tynimiller on Jul 5, 2016 7:53:20 GMT -5
Cut to the chase, just who wrote the specs for legal cartridges? An inquiring mind is curious! Group of state legislatures who thought they were naming only 5 legal to use rounds  They used the REM method for naming them.....rectal extraction method. |
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Post by dbd870 on Jul 5, 2016 7:59:43 GMT -5
Perfect example of what happens when politicians write laws on things which they know nothing about - which is everything!
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Post by tynimiller on Jul 5, 2016 8:40:52 GMT -5
Perfect example of what happens when politicians write laws on things which they know nothing about - which is everything! Whoa whoa whoa...they know, are qualified and are excellent at the following: -Wasting taxpayer money -Expecting to be exempt from any law they create they don't want for their own families -Blowing smoke and kissing butt -Ability to discuss topics they know nothing about but claim to be experts -Ability to vote on a subject or bill they've not even read (except Rand Paul) There may be more...but I'm sick of wasting time on them. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 9:15:23 GMT -5
Perfect example of what happens when politicians write laws on things which they know nothing about - which is everything! Whoa whoa whoa...they know, are qualified and are excellent at the following: -Wasting taxpayer money -Expecting to be exempt from any law they create they don't want for their own families -Blowing smoke and kissing butt -Ability to discuss topics they know nothing about but claim to be experts -Ability to vote on a subject or bill they've not even read (except Rand Paul) There may be more...but I'm sick of wasting time on them. But, there is hope. The Convention of States resolution was passed by eighteen State Houses and eleven Senate . Oklahoma, Indiana, Tennessee, Louisiana, Florida, Georgia, Alaska, and Alabama. There are 38 states in the process of either the House or the Senate. We have secured petitions in 100% of the States Houses Districts. |
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Post by tynimiller on Jul 5, 2016 10:35:38 GMT -5
Whoa whoa whoa...they know, are qualified and are excellent at the following: -Wasting taxpayer money -Expecting to be exempt from any law they create they don't want for their own families -Blowing smoke and kissing butt -Ability to discuss topics they know nothing about but claim to be experts -Ability to vote on a subject or bill they've not even read (except Rand Paul) There may be more...but I'm sick of wasting time on them. But, there is hope. The Convention of States resolution was passed by eighteen State Houses and eleven Senate . Oklahoma, Indiana, Tennessee, Louisiana, Florida, Georgia, Alaska, and Alabama. There are 38 states in the process of either the House or the Senate. We have secured petitions in 100% of the States Houses Districts. I had heard about this but not kept up to date, GOOD NEWS INDEED! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 11:14:11 GMT -5
But, there is hope. The Convention of States resolution was passed by eighteen State Houses and eleven Senate . Oklahoma, Indiana, Tennessee, Louisiana, Florida, Georgia, Alaska, and Alabama. There are 38 states in the process of either the House or the Senate. We have secured petitions in 100% of the States Houses Districts. I had heard about this but not kept up to date, GOOD NEWS INDEED! I 'm an active member and get updates bi-weekly or so. I received this information yesterday. Here is the status of Ohio On June 16: The Ohio Convention of States Leadership Team is very pleased to report that the Convention of States Project’s application for a Convention of States was introduced in the Ohio House of Representatives last week, under the primary bi-partisan sponsorship of Rep. Christina Hagan, R-Stark County and Rep. Bill Patmon, D-Cleveland. I'm not up to date with Kentucky. Maybe someone can chime in. |
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