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Post by arlowe13 on Mar 27, 2016 18:52:24 GMT -5
I thought I saw some data at some point on the DNR's website that showed how many hunters took 1 deer, 2 deer, 3 deer...etc.
Am I dreaming this up or does this data actually exist? Can someone point me to it?
Thanks,
Alex
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Post by Woody Williams on Mar 27, 2016 19:28:35 GMT -5
I thought I saw some data at some point on the DNR's website that showed how many hunters took 1 deer, 2 deer, 3 deer...etc. Am I dreaming this up or does this data actually exist? Can someone point me to it? Thanks, Alex It exists in Hunter percentages but I don't have it in hand right now. Someone else will come along with it.. |
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Post by Woody Williams on Mar 27, 2016 20:07:55 GMT -5
I thought I saw some data at some point on the DNR's website that showed how many hunters took 1 deer, 2 deer, 3 deer...etc. Am I dreaming this up or does this data actually exist? Can someone point me to it? Thanks, Alex Indiana Deer Harvested per hunter… Per Responsive Management Survey - 2010 0 – 43.5 % 1 – 30.0% 2 – 12.2% 3 – 5.6% 4- 2.4% 5 -0.9% 6 - 0.5 % 7 – 0.2% 8 + - 0.6% Does not add to 100% as some responded “Don’t Know”? How does someone not know how many deer they killed? |
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Post by arlowe13 on Mar 27, 2016 20:09:29 GMT -5
I thought I saw some data at some point on the DNR's website that showed how many hunters took 1 deer, 2 deer, 3 deer...etc. Am I dreaming this up or does this data actually exist? Can someone point me to it? Thanks, Alex Indiana Deer Harvested per hunter… Per Responsive Management Survey - 2010 0 – 43.5 % 1 – 30.0% 2 – 12.2% 3 – 5.6% 4- 2.4% 5 -0.9% 6 - 0.5 % 7 – 0.2% 8 + - 0.6% Does not add to 100% as some responded “Don’t Know”? How does someone not know how many deer they killed? Interesting, indeed. Did they only do this survey in 2010? Seems like this data could be pulled every year pretty easily. |
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Post by esshup on Mar 27, 2016 20:10:15 GMT -5
I thought I saw some data at some point on the DNR's website that showed how many hunters took 1 deer, 2 deer, 3 deer...etc. Am I dreaming this up or does this data actually exist? Can someone point me to it? Thanks, Alex Indiana Deer Harvested per hunter… Per Responsive Management Survey - 2010 0 – 43.5 % 1 – 30.0% 2 – 12.2% 3 – 5.6% 4- 2.4% 5 -0.9% 6 - 0.5 % 7 – 0.2% 8 + - 0.6% Does not add to 100% as some responded “Don’t Know”? How does someone not know how many deer they killed? Maybe they did that because they shot some and didn't recover them? |
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Post by greghopper on Mar 27, 2016 20:11:34 GMT -5
I would say 80% of those Deer are shot with a regular tag not bouns antlerless.... IMO
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Post by swilk on Mar 27, 2016 20:15:39 GMT -5
How many deer hunters do we have? I assume those numbers are based solely on those that were part of the survey and shouldn't be interpreted to read that 56.5% of all hunters killed at least one deer?
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Post by greghopper on Mar 27, 2016 20:17:09 GMT -5
A lot
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Post by Woody Williams on Mar 27, 2016 20:17:21 GMT -5
Indiana Deer Harvested per hunter… Per Responsive Management Survey - 2010 0 – 43.5 % 1 – 30.0% 2 – 12.2% 3 – 5.6% 4- 2.4% 5 -0.9% 6 - 0.5 % 7 – 0.2% 8 + - 0.6% Does not add to 100% as some responded “Don’t Know”? How does someone not know how many deer they killed? Interesting, indeed. Did they only do this survey in 2010? Seems like this data could be pulled every year pretty easily. This is one that the contracted out to Responsive Management in 2010. I've never seen anything like that on their regular yearly deer reports or their own in house surveys.. |
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Post by swilk on Mar 27, 2016 20:20:12 GMT -5
Enough that the numbers don't jive if they are saying over 50% of all hunters killed at least one deer. |
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Post by greghopper on Mar 27, 2016 20:26:34 GMT -5
How many deer hunters do we have? I assume those numbers are based solely on those that were part of the survey and shouldn't be interpreted to read that 56.5% of all hunters killed at least one deer? You may want to review the entire report. |
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Post by arlowe13 on Mar 27, 2016 20:29:25 GMT -5
How many deer hunters do we have? I assume those numbers are based solely on those that were part of the survey and shouldn't be interpreted to read that 56.5% of all hunters killed at least one deer? In 2010, there were 268,485 "opportunities" available. I guess that means that many tags were issued. 134,004 deer were taken. The report says that there were 154,303 individual hunters in Indiana that year. They surveyed 8,591, a decent sample size, statistically. The data pertaining to my question can be found on page 41. I found the report... www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/files/fw-MR_1034_2010_Deer_Hunter_Survey.pdf |
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Post by swilk on Mar 27, 2016 20:32:00 GMT -5
I though we had more individual hunters than that. I guess not. How do they determine the number that hunted deer but never purchased a license and also did not kill a deer?
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Post by arlowe13 on Mar 27, 2016 20:36:32 GMT -5
I though we had more individual hunters than that. I guess not. How do they determine the number that hunted deer but never purchased a license and also did not kill a deer? I don't think there is any way for the DNR to know that number. |
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Post by swilk on Mar 27, 2016 20:38:29 GMT -5
There isn't...that's what I'm getting at. And without knowing that the rest of the numbers are inaccurate.
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Post by arlowe13 on Mar 27, 2016 20:42:13 GMT -5
There isn't...that's what I'm getting at. And without knowing that the rest of the numbers are inaccurate. But, that number will probably remain pretty constant (statistically), so the survey is still a decent representation. |
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Post by swilk on Mar 27, 2016 20:45:05 GMT -5
I disagree. For every unknown unsuccessful hunter the overall success rate falls. Instead of an overall success rate of over 55% it is more likely 40% or slightly less....all other percentages drop as well.
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Post by arlowe13 on Mar 27, 2016 20:51:43 GMT -5
I disagree. For every unknown unsuccessful hunter the overall success rate falls. Instead of an overall success rate of over 55% it is more likely 40% or slightly less....all other percentages drop as well. So you think there are nearly 58,000 hunters in that situation? That's A LOT. The fact is, you don't know what you don't know. The purpose of a statistical sample size is that you can accurately predict data without surveying EVERY subject in the population, in this case, deer hunters. There is a ton of research, entire doctorate degrees devoted to development of how to sample a population. I think this survey could be done every year and would still give us a good representation of what really going on during our deer seasons. If only because it's simple to do and can be repeated each year with general certainty. |
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Post by swilk on Mar 27, 2016 20:57:42 GMT -5
I know that they are unable to determine exactly how many deer hunters there are...therefore they are unable to determine a percentage of deer hunters that were successful. LL and landowners combined is a pretty big number...those that killed are known those that hunted even once but did not kill are unknown.
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Post by arlowe13 on Mar 27, 2016 21:00:20 GMT -5
I know that they are unable to determine exactly how many deer hunters there are...therefore they are unable to determine a percentage of deer hunters that were successful. LL and landowners combined is a pretty big number...those that killed are known those that hunted even once but did not kill are unknown. You are right, but the TOTAL number of LL and LO remains pretty constant, and for the purpose of the survey, not entirely a deal-breaker for accuracy. The purpose of sample size is that you can extrapolate out to the entire population with some certainty. They state in the report that they did so with a 95% confidence interval, I won't go into the details of how they came up with that number, but it means what it sounds like. |
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