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Post by jimstc on Mar 13, 2016 13:02:49 GMT -5
I have been involved with shotgunning since I was eleven and that was a long time ago.
I never have experienced what I am going describe and in the last week it happened twice. Looking for insight.
Last year I hunted Spring turkeys with a Win SX2. I used a Briley turkey choke. I removed it for deer season since my grandson was using the Win as his deer shotgun. Getting ready for this Spring season (grandson is using the Win again) I removed the Carlson rifled slug choke and attempted to install the Briley choke. No way. Won't fit into the barrel. Sent it back to Briley. Ordered a Carlson's turkey choke. It won't fit either. So, I pulled out some Rem turkey chokes. (I am now using an 870 for turkey and deer). They fit the Win fine. Of course they don't flush up to the end of the barrel because of the different thread placements.
Anyone have this happen? Other than not flushing the choke to the end of the barrel any reason not to use the Rem chokes?
My thinking is that a 12 gauge barrel bore is the same so I don't see a problem in interchanging chokes among different shotgun manufacturers, but I have been wrong many times before.
Advice? Thanks.
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Post by jimstc on Mar 14, 2016 16:49:25 GMT -5
Well, thanks for the overwhelming response. LOL! Found out today that the early Win SX2's were Win barrels and not the Browning Invector Plus barrels for all the later models. Nonetheless, I am still confused why the Invector Plus choke worked last year but not this year. Oh well, life goes on......
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Post by nfalls116 on Mar 14, 2016 17:51:57 GMT -5
Well, thanks for the overwhelming response lol |
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Post by bullseye69 on Mar 17, 2016 22:09:39 GMT -5
Winchester and Remington have the same threads but they won't seat all the way. so don't do it, the wad could get caught by the exposed choke on the inside.
As far as the old choke going back in ,maybe the slugs swelled the barrel end a little and the threads aren't right now.
I'm assuming it was a field barrel not the short slug barrel.
The field barrel may be thinner out at the end and the slugs opened it up. Maybe??
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Post by esshup on Mar 18, 2016 1:15:09 GMT -5
Or was the end of the barrel really, really dirty?
Whatever choke you use, I would get a large paper clip, straighten it out, and grind a point on the end, then bend a 1/4" or so 90° on the end. Put it in the barrel past the choke tube end and drag it out the end of the barrel. If it hangs up on the choke tube, that is not good, and it could be a recipe for shooting the choke tube out of the end of the gun effectively ruining the barrel.
Could your grandson not checked the choke tube when he was using it and shot the gun with the choke tube loose in the barrel? Then tightened it up before giving it back?
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Post by dbd870 on Mar 18, 2016 6:36:33 GMT -5
Winchester and Remington have the same threads but they won't seat all the way. so don't do it, the wad could get caught by the exposed choke on the inside. As far as the old choke going back in ,maybe the slugs swelled the barrel end a little and the threads aren't right now. I'm assuming it was a field barrel not the short slug barrel. The field barrel may be thinner out at the end and the slugs opened it up. Maybe?? Yeah, I wonder what condition the threads are in as well. |
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Post by esshup on Mar 18, 2016 10:56:45 GMT -5
Winchester and Remington have the same threads but they won't seat all the way. so don't do it, the wad could get caught by the exposed choke on the inside. As far as the old choke going back in ,maybe the slugs swelled the barrel end a little and the threads aren't right now. I'm assuming it was a field barrel not the short slug barrel. The field barrel may be thinner out at the end and the slugs opened it up. Maybe?? Yeah, I wonder what condition the threads are in as well. If it was my gun, I would take it to a competent gunsmith and have them double check the threads, and clean them up if required. Something doesn't sound right, and I'd hate to have the choke tube follow the shot column out the barrel. |
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Post by jimstc on Mar 20, 2016 16:31:13 GMT -5
Winchester and Remington have the same threads but they won't seat all the way. so don't do it, the wad could get caught by the exposed choke on the inside. As far as the old choke going back in ,maybe the slugs swelled the barrel end a little and the threads aren't right now. I'm assuming it was a field barrel not the short slug barrel. The field barrel may be thinner out at the end and the slugs opened it up. Maybe?? Yep, the field barrel. That is great insight. The slugs opening up the barrel makes perfect sense. Thanks for the advice. really appreciated. This is strange to me |
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Post by jimstc on Mar 20, 2016 16:38:02 GMT -5
Or was the end of the barrel really, really dirty? Whatever choke you use, I would get a large paper clip, straighten it out, and grind a point on the end, then bend a 1/4" or so 90° on the end. Put it in the barrel past the choke tube end and drag it out the end of the barrel. If it hangs up on the choke tube, that is not good, and it could be a recipe for shooting the choke tube out of the end of the gun effectively ruining the barrel. Could your grandson not checked the choke tube when he was using it and shot the gun with the choke tube loose in the barrel? Then tightened it up before giving it back? esshup, There was some rust in the end of the barrel from hunting in wet conditions. Shame on me for not paying attention until there was a problem. I cleaned and cleaned the barrel and threads and lubricated both. Thanks a bunch for the advice!! The paper clip advice is great.. Grandson, unfortunately never had a shot , so it was not fired. Still a mystery to me |
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Post by jimstc on Mar 20, 2016 16:40:22 GMT -5
Yeah, I wonder what condition the threads are in as well. If it was my gun, I would take it to a competent gunsmith and have them double check the threads, and clean them up if required. Something doesn't sound right, and I'd hate to have the choke tube follow the shot column out the barrel. They seem good when I screw in a Rem choke. No lock up. Smooth until I get to the end of the threads |
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Post by jimstc on Mar 20, 2016 16:42:15 GMT -5
Thanks guys! This forum is a wealth of information and help. I am fortunate to be a member and to learn from your collective knowledge.
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Post by bullseye69 on Mar 21, 2016 21:10:43 GMT -5
Thanks guys! This forum is a wealth of information and help. I am fortunate to be a member and to learn from your collective knowledge. So are you good to go now? |
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Post by jimstc on Mar 22, 2016 4:38:26 GMT -5
Thanks guys! This forum is a wealth of information and help. I am fortunate to be a member and to learn from your collective knowledge. So are you good to go now? Yes sir! Thank you. It turned out to be a Win barrel. Shane Carlson at Carlson chokes swapped the Invector Plus choke for a Win SX2 choke. Just arrived yesterday and it seated properly. |
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Post by jimstc on Mar 22, 2016 18:05:47 GMT -5
Post script: Grandson will be here tomorrow for the rest of the week (Spring break) to get his gun dialed in for turkey season. He doesn't know yet that I have the choke issue resolved or that I applied for a youth hunt at Winamac FWA. Gonna be like early Christmas around here......
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Post by nfalls116 on Mar 22, 2016 20:54:20 GMT -5
Good deal jim
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