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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 12:31:36 GMT -5
Hi there folks. I am new to the forum, so please forgive me if this question has been addressed already elsewhere. My quick look the threads didn't see anything related to the topic. My question:
Can anyone tell me the number of the bill that is up for vote related to legal deer hunting cartridges? I don't know if it is a house bill or senate bill. I looked at their website until my eyes got crossed and couldn't find it. Apparently if passed, it would legalize the .45-70 for deer hunting, among other things.
I currently live in North Carolina, but my wife got a job at Purdue, and we will be moving before next deer season. My grandad's faithful old 760 Gamemaster, which has put lots of venison in the freezer for me (and grandad too, God rest his soul), will have to stay in the cabinet until I can afford a trip out west. So, I am now in the market for a new gun. I'll need something legal in Ohio as well, and was hoping to make the new gun a .45-70. If I can keep an eye on the new legislation it will help me make my purchase. Otherwise I'll have to buy a .357 lever action I guess.
Thanks for any help y'all can offer!
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Post by deadeer on Feb 9, 2016 12:47:22 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 13:02:11 GMT -5
Ohio - bad news. Shot gun, Hand gun or Muzzleloader. No rifles. I'm in the same boat. I hunt both Ohio and Indiana.
Gun Season and Youth Gun Season Shotgun: 10 gauge or smaller shotgun using one ball or one rifled slug per barrel (rifled shotgun barrels are permitted when using shotgun slug ammunition). Muzzleloading rifle: .38 caliber or larger. Muzzleloading shotgun: 10 gauge or smaller using one ball per barrel. Handgun: With 5-inch minimum length barrel, using straight-walled cartridges .357 caliber or larger. Straight-walled cartridge rifles in the following calibers: .357 Magnum, .357 Maximum, .38 Special, .375 Super Magnum, .375 Winchester, .38-55, .41 Long Colt, .41 Magnum, .44 Special, .44 Magnum, .444 Marlin, .45 ACP, .45 Colt, .45 Long Colt, .45 Winchester Magnum, .45 Smith & Wesson, .450 Marlin, .454 Casull, .460 Smith & Wesson, .45-70, .45-90, .45-110, .475 Linebaugh, .50-70, .50-90, .50-100, .50-110, and .500 Smith & Wesson. Shotguns and straight-walled cartridge rifles can be loaded with no more than three shells in the chamber and magazine combined.
Muzzleloader Season Muzzleloading rifle: .38 caliber or larger. Muzzleloading shotgun: 10 gauge or smaller using one ball per barrel.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 13:09:07 GMT -5
Ah, yes. Thank you! I figured someone must have already posted about it, but my eyes ain't what they used to be.
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Post by esshup on Feb 9, 2016 13:41:50 GMT -5
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Post by dbd870 on Feb 9, 2016 15:16:00 GMT -5
Yep; I'd just wait and see how the Bill progresses. In your circumstances (assuming it passes) 45-70 is probably about perfect. (even though I'm more of a a 444 guy)
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Post by hornzilla on Feb 9, 2016 15:42:22 GMT -5
I love a 444 and it's even legal now if you trim the case just a little. Same can be said about the 4570 also.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 16:42:51 GMT -5
Thanks guys. Yeah, I would prefer the .45-70 if things pass, but may have to make do with a .357. The .357 levers are hard to find at the moment though. But, it is a very versatile round, and I already own a .357 wheel gun.
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Post by jimstc on Feb 11, 2016 18:07:34 GMT -5
Aren't cheap is putting kindly. LOL! I have a custom .260 Rem with better build parts at about the same price, but it isn't legal here. Investing for the future. I hope.....
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Post by jimstc on Feb 11, 2016 18:15:16 GMT -5
My thinking is a Freedom Arms .454 Casull. Not cheap but less than Big Horn Armory. Of course it is a revolver and not a rifle. Just thinking out load...
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Post by esshup on Feb 12, 2016 0:59:45 GMT -5
My buddy bought a lever action .454 Casull a few years ago. I forget who the mfg was. It wasn't expensive though.
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Post by deadeer on Feb 12, 2016 1:35:04 GMT -5
Bullseye-69 has a Rossi Puma lever gun in 454 Casull also. Looks sweet and shoots good.
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Post by drs on Feb 12, 2016 5:24:27 GMT -5
Thanks guys. Yeah, I would prefer the .45-70 if things pass, but may have to make do with a .357. The .357 levers are hard to find at the moment though. But, it is a very versatile round, and I already own a .357 wheel gun. swampmusic, you might consider a rifle/carbine in .44 Magnum. I currently have a Ruger Model 77/.44 Mag, and it is accurate and has plenty power for taking Deer. I used this rifle when the State of Indiana, in 2007, allowed such cartridges (Cartridge pistol cartridges for hunting Deer) There are also several Lever Actions on the market too. Down here in Kentucky, I use my .308 or .270 for Deer, as we have no restrictions on what to use on Deer, except it must be "Centerfire Cartridges". So my Ruger 77/44 stays pretty much in my gun closet.
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Post by dbd870 on Feb 12, 2016 7:35:07 GMT -5
My buddy bought a lever action .454 Casull a few years ago. I forget who the mfg was. It wasn't expensive though. Probably Rossi/Puma
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Post by esshup on Feb 12, 2016 9:42:48 GMT -5
My buddy bought a lever action .454 Casull a few years ago. I forget who the mfg was. It wasn't expensive though. Probably Rossi/Puma Rossi/Puma rings a bell... HE likes it because he reloads, and can use .45 Colt in it for practice, and either use full house .45 Colt for deer or .454 Casull if he needs more oomph. He used it on a hog hunt in Tenn, and had no problems taking a hog cleanly, spotting and stalking.
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Post by drs on Feb 12, 2016 10:24:21 GMT -5
Rossi/Puma rings a bell... HE likes it because he reloads, and can use .45 Colt in it for practice, and either use full house .45 Colt for deer or .454 Casull if he needs more oomph. He used it on a hog hunt in Tenn, and had no problems taking a hog cleanly, spotting and stalking. I have a Rossi/Puma in .44-40 W.C.F, neat little lever action and accurate. With hand loads, I can receive velocity readings of some 1,900 FPS using a Hornady 200 gr. XTP bullet & IMR-4227.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2016 10:59:17 GMT -5
Does anyone know when the house bill is due to come up for vote? If they legalize more calibers I'd sure like to get a .45-70, but once I get the itch for a new gun it sure is hard to wait very long.
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Post by jjas on Feb 12, 2016 11:25:57 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2016 12:52:30 GMT -5
Great, thanks!
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Post by omegahunter on Feb 12, 2016 16:31:45 GMT -5
Does anyone know when the house bill is due to come up for vote? If they legalize more calibers I'd sure like to get a .45-70, but once I get the itch for a new gun it sure is hard to wait very long. Fastest way to sink the bill is to go ahead and get the rifle before the bill passes. Ask everyone that hurried to get rid of their .358 Hoosier rifles expecting the last DNR proposal to pass.
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