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Post by swilk on Oct 25, 2015 7:53:56 GMT -5
Shoot enough of them and sooner or later a guy will lose one. Shoot enough of them and sooner or later a guy will gut shoot one.
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 25, 2015 7:59:33 GMT -5
Shoot enough of them and sooner or later a guy will lose one. Shoot enough of them and sooner or later a guy will gut shoot one. With ANY equipment...
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Post by esshup on Oct 25, 2015 10:15:52 GMT -5
Update: I picked up the meat today and the processor said that it was starting to turn green around the joints too. He's had 2 others come in like mine, and they all have had about the same % of meat loss. Another one he told the hunter to just leave it in the woods because it was even warmer over night than the night mine spent in the woods. Knowing well that I will be criticized for my statement. But I sincerely believe that one who enjoys archery hunting for Deer; they should NOT consider an evening hunt with a bow. Also they should be experts in using this type equipment, by being able to hit a soft drink can consistently at 35 yards. We all watch these TV shows, on the weekend, where it shows a famous TV Hunter, bag a huge Buck or another specie of game animal, using archery equipment; but we forget they ARE EXPERTS. My suggestion is to just observe Deer movements during archery season or just before firearm season and then hunt with a firearm, when the season opens. Hunting and shooting/wounding a Deer this time of the year when it's way too warm, in the evening, is not the most intelligent way to bag a Deer. Also, taking shots that are too long, becoming excited, usually end-up making a poor placement shot, thus the Deer runs off in the dark and becomes unrecoverable, only to be found spoiled. drs, I agree about the practice, practice thing until you are really proficient, and if buck fever gets ya, don't shoot until you are settled down. That's why I use a crossbow, and always have a set of shooting sticks to use for a rest, or the rail on the ladder stand. As you can see from the pictures that I posted of the deer, shot placement was good. Maybe a hair too far forward, but still was a double lung pass thru. Following a blood trail isn't that hard for me - it's just when there wasn't blood that the problem cropped up. You are correct, maybe not hunting in the evening is the ticket, but on that particular property there is very little deer movement during the morning - the deer are thru that area by the time legal shooting light arrives.
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Post by chubwub on Oct 25, 2015 10:23:14 GMT -5
Heh, from what ive seen the TV trophy hunters are the absolute worst about leaving deer overnight, regardless of skill. ;-)
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Post by corok on Oct 25, 2015 13:09:02 GMT -5
There is no way to confirm this of course, but I've taken plenty of deer early season and at dusk with a bow. I primarily use bow even during firearm seasons because I enjoy it so much. Mark Twain has been quoted as saying, "Good judgement is the result of experience and experience the result of bad judgement". I've had to leave two deer over night in 20 years of hunting and both had a bit of spoilage. Also, both were early on in my hunting career so they taught me when to chance a shot and the consequences of decisions I've made. Generally speaking, I do not think blanket statements are good for any situation, and given the variety of things that go into making a decision to take a shot, they can actually be a deterrent in teaching a person how to make proper decisions in be woods while under exciting circumstances. I do understand why cautioning against bad shot decision is needed, but saying evening hunts with bow shouldn't happen is a bad decision in my opinion "TV experts" is also a bit of a stretch given that most of those guys have money or know someone with money, have a lot of land to hunt on more than likely, and have mostly gained EXPERIENCE from hunting many times over in the situations they are seen in on a tv show. As was mentioned above, I've seen those guys leave deer over night time and again and probably much more than needed since they are doing it to mount a rack or because they have other opportunities otherwise. There's only one way to learn how to hunt and that is to hunt, both day and evening
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2015 13:24:56 GMT -5
There is no way to confirm this of course, but I've taken plenty of deer early season and at dusk with a bow. I primarily use bow even during firearm seasons because I enjoy it so much. Mark Twain has been quoted as saying, "Good judgement is the result of experience and experience the result of bad judgement". I've had to leave two deer over night in 20 years of hunting and both had a bit of spoilage. Also, both were early on in my hunting career so they taught me when to chance a shot and the consequences of decisions I've made. Generally speaking, I do not think blanket statements are good for any situation, and given the variety of things that go into making a decision to take a shot, they can actually be a deterrent in teaching a person how to make proper decisions in be woods while under exciting circumstances. I do understand why cautioning against bad shot decision is needed, but saying evening hunts with bow shouldn't happen is a bad decision in my opinion "TV experts" is also a bit of a stretch given that most of those guys have money or know someone with money, have a lot of land to hunt on more than likely, and have mostly gained EXPERIENCE from hunting many times over in the situations they are seen in on a tv show. As was mentioned above, I've seen those guys leave deer over night time and again and probably much more than needed since they are doing it to mount a rack or because they have other opportunities otherwise. There's only one way to learn how to hunt and that is to hunt, both day and evening What, specifically, do you like about hunting with a bow?
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Post by sakorifle on Oct 26, 2015 2:59:45 GMT -5
greetings I would like to add that i always use a 308 and a dog and in the evenings if there is any chance that deer is ging to make it to the sitka trees i do not take it, yes the dog will find it but if i go in there and get disorientated i may not get back out that easy, that is how close the trees are planted together, What i have learned on here, is i now al ways carry marker tape with me, even if i dont go in i have an exact mark as to where to put dog baCk in in daylight, although any that has been left out is scrapped, but regardless it must be found, and if that means bringing in another five dogs, then so be it, it will be done. Does not matter how good one is or what gear one uses at some point something is going to go wrong, what sorts the men from the boys is how that failure on our part is followed up. regards Billy
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Post by corok on Oct 27, 2015 20:43:47 GMT -5
There is no way to confirm this of course, but I've taken plenty of deer early season and at dusk with a bow. I primarily use bow even during firearm seasons because I enjoy it so much. Mark Twain has been quoted as saying, "Good judgement is the result of experience and experience the result of bad judgement". I've had to leave two deer over night in 20 years of hunting and both had a bit of spoilage. Also, both were early on in my hunting career so they taught me when to chance a shot and the consequences of decisions I've made. Generally speaking, I do not think blanket statements are good for any situation, and given the variety of things that go into making a decision to take a shot, they can actually be a deterrent in teaching a person how to make proper decisions in be woods while under exciting circumstances. I do understand why cautioning against bad shot decision is needed, but saying evening hunts with bow shouldn't happen is a bad decision in my opinion "TV experts" is also a bit of a stretch given that most of those guys have money or know someone with money, have a lot of land to hunt on more than likely, and have mostly gained EXPERIENCE from hunting many times over in the situations they are seen in on a tv show. As was mentioned above, I've seen those guys leave deer over night time and again and probably much more than needed since they are doing it to mount a rack or because they have other opportunities otherwise. There's only one way to learn how to hunt and that is to hunt, both day and evening What, specifically, do you like about hunting with a bow? Hi Metamorahunter. First let me say that I haven't been back to forums since making this post due to time restraints, but I re-read my message and thought I might have been a bit too aggressive with my wording. I had a few drinks after work and could have been a little less abrasive to drs. Sorry about that. To answer your question, I think it probably comes from just loving the experience since teaching myself to hunt. I started when I was 15 and had bought a bear bow from the ez-pawn shop. That thing shot like crap but I had adjusted to it and shot okay. I had no hunters in my family so I literally watched hunting videos all spring and summer and started hunting at season opening. I shot my first buck that year in the middle of December with a lot of snow on the ground and snow falling in huge flakes, and that experience made me fall in love with hunting. I had shot between two trees about 3 feet a part and I was super arrogant and pried I had done that I was 15 after all I still remember trying to figure out for 15 minutes what I should do about the testacles when I was field dressing. I hadn't watched any videos on field dressing yet and winged it Ever since then I have just loved bow hunting. I like to get close and the skill involved since I usually hunt on property that isn't mine and don't have a lot of opportunity to plan for the hunts. There has always been luck involved too of course, but I just like to be close enough to hit the deer while trying to beat their nose, eyes and ears. Maybe I'm just fooling myself with those thoughts but it's always appealed to me to bow hunt since it is fun to hunt this way for me I've gun hunted with others as asked or offered but if it is just me I usually just bow hunt. I bought a crossbow for my daughter and son this year and I actually enjoy it a lot. It's fun and a different experience having my kids with me, so maybe it's just the memories that are built that make us fond of one thing versus another? I know that wasn't very specific but I honestly just think it's because I fell in love with it as a young teenager and have had very fond memories of hunting with a bow. When I gun hunt it does give me a slightly different experience so I would say it's just preference, but I do enjoy having to practice a lot to make shots count.
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