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Jan 3, 2015 20:37:31 GMT -5
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Post by grey squirrel on Jan 3, 2015 20:37:31 GMT -5
Ready to get after some coyotes! Just purchased my first rifle, a Savage model 16 in .243, it came with a Nikon BDC scope. Also picked up an ICOtec GC500 electronic caller. Hoping the weather next weekend will allow me to get the rifle sighted in and am gonna work on getting the caller setup this week. Can't wait to try my hand at huntin those dogs! Any tips from any experienced hunters will be appreciated! Also, any suggestions on a scope mounted night light?
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'Yotes
Jan 5, 2015 17:54:40 GMT -5
Post by squirrelhunter on Jan 5, 2015 17:54:40 GMT -5
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Post by grey squirrel on Jan 6, 2015 9:05:15 GMT -5
Thanks for the link. Seems there are only about 4-5 scope mount light choices. I think I'm gonna go with the Wicked brand and see how they do.
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Post by squirrelhunter on Jan 6, 2015 12:12:10 GMT -5
You would think there would be more choices,I guess most use night vision scopes.
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Post by remington243 on Jan 6, 2015 14:55:59 GMT -5
I would suggest a Picatinny rail mounted light at the 6 o'clock position. This gives you less chance of bumping your scope alignment with something hanging on it.I have a light/red dot combo that works well. Barska has one.
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'Yotes
Jan 10, 2015 10:16:02 GMT -5
Post by 45shooter on Jan 10, 2015 10:16:02 GMT -5
I can suggest the wicked lights W400. I bought the kit that comes with two lights and 5 leds. One light to scan with and one to mount on the gun. They work great. The kits come with a picatinny type mount that can attach to a scope and a pressure switch tail cap. It also comes with a couple of different mounts for the light. I don't really like the pressure switch set up and mounting at 12:00 o'clock position is just too high for me. So, I have the picatinny mount set at about 10:30 on my scope. Then on my light, I have attached the mount that is supposed to be an offset attachment like you would attach to the front rail on an AR. This puts the light at about 9:00 o'clock to the scope. I shoot off of shooting sticks and my support hand can get to the tailcap quickly from the sticks.
Also, I would not recommend any red dot set up for night hunting unless you are shooting VERY close. At least for me, the light coming from the dot reduces my ability to see the target. Get some good glass and a good light and you will be able to put the cross hairs where they count when it counts.
One other tip - Invest in a good scope and good mounts and moount properly and the chances of POI/POA shift due to handling (bumping) is GREATLY reduced. I've carried the same rifle for 5+ years in all types of weather and terrain chasing those dang elusive song dogs and I know it's seen it's share of bumps. I've never had a POI/POA shift.
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Post by M4Madness on Jan 10, 2015 16:37:33 GMT -5
You would think there would be more choices,I guess most use night vision scopes. Most hunt coyotes during the day.  |
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Post by michaeladkins on Jan 10, 2015 16:41:27 GMT -5
You would think there would be more choices,I guess most use night vision scopes. Most hunt coyotes during the day. I would not have guessed that. So when is the best time to get after them? I am new to this too and would love to learn more about them. |
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'Yotes
Jan 10, 2015 18:54:11 GMT -5
Post by M4Madness on Jan 10, 2015 18:54:11 GMT -5
Just like deer, I've found that the best times for coyote are the within the first and last two hours of the day. I have NEVER killed a coyote at night -- only foxes. I am going to pick up either a thermal or nightvision scope soon and give night hunting a try, but have no interest in using a red-filtered light. Watch coyote hunting videos on Youtube and you'll see tons of daylight kills. Here's one example: www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4P6_Gszhm4 |
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'Yotes
Jan 11, 2015 0:07:56 GMT -5
Post by esshup on Jan 11, 2015 0:07:56 GMT -5
Just like deer, I've found that the best times for coyote are the within the first and last two hours of the day. I have NEVER killed a coyote at night -- only foxes. I am going to pick up either a thermal or nightvision scope soon and give night hunting a try, but have no interest in using a red-filtered light. Watch coyote hunting videos on Youtube and you'll see tons of daylight kills. Here's one example: www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4P6_Gszhm4You are correct for daylight hunting hours, but all the trail cam pictures that I've gotten of coyotes are at night. I think the majority of film and video you see are shot in the daylight because it's more "newsworthy". If they were filming at night you might only see a set of eyes and then they disappear at the shot. If I had a choice of hunting deer during the day, or spotlighting and shooting them at night, I think I could kill a LOT more deer at night....... |
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Post by duff on Jan 11, 2015 9:26:59 GMT -5
Well i also have only killed yotes in daylight hours...but only done night hunts a few times. Just don't enjoy the darkness cause i feel the best thing in my advantage is my eyesight. And dark scares me:-)
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'Yotes
Jan 11, 2015 10:15:43 GMT -5
Post by moose1am on Jan 11, 2015 10:15:43 GMT -5
Funny stuff there. It scares me too. But then that's what makes it more fun to hunt a night. Which is why I bought a back up pistol for night hunting. You never know what's out there lurking in the darkness. I could write a bunch of stuff but most of it would have been already said before in here and on other forums about coyote hunting. My advise is to do a lot or reading and studying of this topic before you actually go out and hunt coyotes. Study up first. If not you may do more harm than good. What you don't want to do is get out there and make a bunch if beginner mistake and educate more coyotes than you kill. Play the wind and sit very still. Be real quiet and choose your stand spot carefully with terrain and wind in mind before you go out at night. Don't over call. Less is more when calling. Coyotes have excellent hearing and you don't need to turn the volume up full blast for them to hear your calls. Learn to call with a hand call too. Go with a hunting partner if possible. Well i also have only killed yotes in daylight hours...but only done night hunts a few times. Just don't enjoy the darkness cause i feel the best thing in my advantage is my eyesight. And dark scares me:-)he said "And the dark Scares me:-)" |
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'Yotes
Jan 11, 2015 12:42:09 GMT -5
Post by squirrelhunter on Jan 11, 2015 12:42:09 GMT -5
You would think there would be more choices,I guess most use night vision scopes. Most hunt coyotes during the day. I was meaning of the people that DO hunt them at night,that that's probably what they use . Poor people like me can't afford night vision and thermal scopes and stuff and have to settle for red filtered lights  . I see lots of shows of guys hunting predators and hogs at night using both types of setups. |
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'Yotes
Jan 11, 2015 13:02:17 GMT -5
Post by M4Madness on Jan 11, 2015 13:02:17 GMT -5
Oh, I'm sure that some are killed at night. I'm just saying that I've never killed one at night, although I have tried multiple times over the last 20 years. They tend to howl and yip and hang up just out of sight, even when using a red-filtered light and keeping it elevated to where only the bottom edge of the beam is scanning ground level.
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'Yotes
Jan 11, 2015 13:05:07 GMT -5
Post by M4Madness on Jan 11, 2015 13:05:07 GMT -5
You are correct for daylight hunting hours, but all the trail cam pictures that I've gotten of coyotes are at night. I only got one on camera this year (young one), and it was in the daylight: www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHm09eYKZuo |
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'Yotes
Jan 11, 2015 23:10:53 GMT -5
Post by windingwinds on Jan 11, 2015 23:10:53 GMT -5
Neighbor's grandson shot at two coyotes during gun season in daylight.
I've always wondered if they would come up to a bait pile under a spotlight? Or do they avoid lights at night?
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'Yotes
Jun 27, 2015 7:58:48 GMT -5
Post by moose1am on Jun 27, 2015 7:58:48 GMT -5
Most hunt coyotes during the day. I was meaning of the people that DO hunt them at night,that that's probably what they use . Poor people like me can't afford night vision and thermal scopes and stuff and have to settle for red filtered lights . I see lots of shows of guys hunting predators and hogs at night using both types of setups. I'm with you in that I can't afford night vision or thermal scopes. I wish I had them but I just can't justify spending that type of money on them right now.
So I use the Wicked Light for now. I've got three different colored LED bulbs. White, Green and Red. But I've not hunted at night with this light yet. So most of my hunting will be done during the last few hours of daylight or the early morning hours during the day.
I've hunted at night a few times by myself and did see some eyes as I was walking in to setup my stand but unfortunately for me there were four other guys fishing nearby and perhaps the critters were on pins and needles with all the people out in the field. The eye's quickly vanished into the darkness and never returned. They could have been deer, raccoons or anything else for that matter. They were low to the ground but that's all I could tell. Once when I was up in Canada looking for black bears at the town dump we saw eyes low to the ground and figured they were skunks. But after watching them for a while they stood up and we then knew it was a black bear. When the bear had it's head down it looked very different from when it stood up on it's back legs. The eye shine got much higher off the ground and we knew for sure that it was a bear. Deer when they feed have their heads down on the ground and their eye shine at night may appear to be a smaller animal until they pick their heads up and look at you. Even a raccoon will stand up on it's hind legs at time to get a better view. So I'm not sure what the eyes were. It could have been just about anything.
That night I found out that my FX3 and it's remote didn't work very far away. That or I could not hear the sound very well. I can't remember if I had my electronic amplified ear muffs on or not that night. But I know that I had a hard time hearing the sounds. Which is one reason I decided back then to update my electronic caller to some thing new. I've got a shockwave now and need to test it out in field conditions. I got a small and a larger tripod to elevate the caller to extend the range of the remote and caller. I hope to put the caller farther away than 20 to 25 yards and still have it work. I need to buy a FoxJack3 though before I get out again.
My best advise it to start out hunting at daylight until about 9 am or go out a couple hours before dark. When it's dark outside and you are using a rifle scope it's hard to see in the dark even with a light. The field of view is very limited even at 4X power. My night hunting adventures proved that to me. Which Is the main reason I decided to get an EOTECH system so as to improve the field of view at night and to make shooting close in moving targets easier. Try seeing everything around you in the dark by looking at the light beam though a soda straw. That's what it's light looking though a rifle scope at night IMHO. With the EOTECH system I can keep both eyes open and still aim at the target. And I don't have to worry about parallex so much as I would with a rifle scope. I'd keep the scope and use it for day time hunting. Maybe a 3X scope might be better but I don't have that low of power on my Nikon M-233 scope.
I would not over call either. Call for few seconds and then wait for server minutes. Start out with low volume just in case their is a yote up close. Yotes that are farther away can always be called in later by increasing the volume.
Watch the wind. They like to try to circle downwind of the caller.
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. I see lots of shows of guys hunting predators and hogs at night using both types of setups. 