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Post by seindhunter on Feb 7, 2008 8:57:43 GMT -5
For Sale
1 Doz GHG Hunter Series Feeders used once $110/6 1 Doz GHG Hunter Series Feeders $100/6 1/2 Doz GHG Hunter series Actives $100/6
Prices don't include shipping.
I will be at the waterfowl expo in indy on sat if someone wants to meet there to pick up.
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Post by hoosierhunter2 on Feb 7, 2008 13:50:25 GMT -5
John, What are you going to replace them with?
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Post by seindhunter on Feb 7, 2008 15:27:39 GMT -5
Matt, I'm gonna use something from a company who will stand behind their product and has more durable paint. I have 6 decoy, that just look terrible. I won"t even sell them. I wouln't have bought the last dozen if I had known the paint was coming off. I just thought the decoys had mud on them. It was a surprise to me when I washed my decoys and found out the paint was coming off. Customer service at GHG has been no help. They even told me that I was not the customer, the dealer that sold them to me was their customer. I've been a Quality Engineer for 3 different companies and they would have gone out of business treating customers that way.
John
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Post by ccordray on Feb 7, 2008 17:36:55 GMT -5
Don't buy them then. Just means more for me.
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Post by Noblebowhunter on Feb 7, 2008 19:48:38 GMT -5
Bigfoots... punt them if you want too .... wont hurt them a bit
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Post by pigeonflier on Feb 7, 2008 20:33:18 GMT -5
Bigfoots... punt them if you want too .... wont hurt them a bit I have some even shake and rattle
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Post by seindhunter on Feb 8, 2008 20:35:19 GMT -5
You mean that bigfoots are bulletproof. Wow, that must be some special plastic ;D
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Post by twoshot on Feb 11, 2008 18:23:13 GMT -5
I emailed GHG at the beginning of the season as to the paint problems with their decoys. There were several comments on a retailers website about paint problems. The reply I received from the company was very sarcastic, bordering on insulting me that I dared to suggest there was a problem. Guess what, the negative messages from the retailers website mysteriously vanished. I have actually heard that the FFD's hold up better that the painted decoys, but are a pain to keep clean. I have used shells for many years and am considering going to Big Foots next year.
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Post by pigeonflier on Feb 11, 2008 18:35:37 GMT -5
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Post by duff on Feb 11, 2008 18:38:02 GMT -5
Unless they are attempting to sell another brand...BF=usa made, tough as nails and still killing plenty of birds
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Post by 10point on Feb 11, 2008 18:56:08 GMT -5
Unless they are attempting to sell another brand...BF=usa made, tough as nails and still killing plenty of birds Duff, I thought you left the waterfowl forum. ;D
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Post by duff on Feb 11, 2008 19:34:55 GMT -5
For the most part!!! Sometimes I forget though
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Post by ccordray on Feb 11, 2008 21:27:46 GMT -5
Bash on them all you want but if you cannot set a decoy without acting like an ogre then those aren't for you. I like 'Foots just as well as I do GHG but I like the fact that GHG's will actually move in the wind which is something BF's won't do. I'm sure that no one can change your mind though which is why you shouldn't buy them and just leave more for me.
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Post by uglyduckling on Feb 11, 2008 23:54:05 GMT -5
ccordray, maybe you should try and be a little more polite with your posts. Everybody has a opinion. Some people hunt differently than others. I have an account with avery so I can say this. The GOOSE decoys do have a paint problem. The motion is nice but just because it moves doesn't make it effective especially if it looks likes it never had paint on it to begin with. Kevin
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Post by quackingtim on Feb 12, 2008 0:51:56 GMT -5
All decoys have there pos. and neg. GHG move well, but don't hold paint. Big foots hold paint great, but I don't care for there tri-pod motion base. Hidgen hold paint well, but have no motion, and they don't look all that great. Hardcores look great, mine have held paint well but others have had problems, have a weak motion base. Dakotas are holding paint well, have great motion system, and look great. They don't hold up to a 10 lb goose falling from 40 feet in the air. If you are where they want to be, it don't matter what decoy you use. Have fun decoy shopping.
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Post by hoosierhunter2 on Feb 12, 2008 11:01:51 GMT -5
I think too much is made of looks on decoys!! The effectiveness is what is important! Geese don't see like we do!!!! They can't tell a DSD from a Bigfoot as far as detail, what they can see is shades and size and movement!!! Correct coloring of decoys is important (they need to be dark and not light, and bright effective white bellys on them), Size is an issue sometimes to be effective (if you are in high corn stubble, you need some larger bodies), and lastly is the motion (effective lifelike and reliable motion system). Really most all of the decoy companies are pretty good with size and coloring, I would mention that I don't like Higdon's coloring (they did to turn a bad UV purple shade to them), and I thing that Higdon and Bigfoot both have not done what they should and could with the motion systems! GHG has good coloring and size, they have an effective motion system (the best motion system, before the new Dakotas came along), Hardcores are good coloring and good motion, but terrible quality stakes and I personally don't like the small size when hunting stubble, they are great on open bean fields or grass though. And finally that bring me to Dakotas, obviously they are sponsoring us, but I want to tell you my honest opinion of them from my hunting and testing of them so far this year..... I like the color and size of them, I especially like the "oversize" of them to create more effective sight and shadowing, They have a larger white belly showing also which I think is more effective (dark to white contrasting), and in my opinion they have developed the best motion system by far (under control motion, and a natural turning side to side, not a wobble). Obviously durability is a big concern to guys, and on this issue Bigfoot is still king, although for what you get along with it, the Dakotas are a good second place on that! Another really big issue to me is Customer Service!!! Bill with Dakota is dedicated to build the best decoy he can and values feedback from hunters to improve and will make any issue right with the buyer, THAT IS HUGE!!! I don't want to bash another company, but we have all heard the horror stories of customer service from other companies! That would be the end of it to me personally!! And in this whole mix, let's not forget silouettes!!! There are plenty out there that are very effective, good color, size and... motion? Silouettes turned in all different directions will create illusion of motion. Personally I like to hunt over mainly fullbodies, but in alot of situations silouettes are a superior choice for ease of use. So my honest opinion of today's fullbody decoys (take it for what it's worth ). I won't rank them, but evaluate them.... Bigfoots... Awesome decoys for durability and size! Motion system is a dismal failure! Coloring of decoys is fine, they do fade out with time which will make them not as effective to contrast (keep your white areas cleaned and painted!!!) Customer service, good and for the most part is a non issue with these! ;D Greenhead Gear... Color, size, and motion all good! These decoys have really revolutionized the decoy market! Durability is an issue with these decoys!!! Too brittle of plastic on the footbases and bodies, so will have to treat delicately and bag them, but very effective decoys!!! Here is the biggie with this one.... Customer service!!!! I feel they are resting too much on their laurels and not going forward! There are issues that need to be addressed and they just don't want to, I don't know why? They have opened the door to other companies to move it with their disgruntled customers!! Higdons... Size good, durability good, color.... terrible (due to bad UV issues!!), Motion... what motion? That's about all I have to say on them, way down on my list of decoys to buy and use!! FA... I don't have much experience with them, I still think they are a work in progress, their past endeavors have been a failure, but I think they are committed to eventually getting it right. Dakotas... Color is great with good contrasting, Durability has been good so far, I do feel there have been a couple of start up issues that are being addressed (nothing major, but little things like ) and Bill is making it right with consumers. Size, this is something that I really like about them!! I love the shadowing and size! Motion, well in my opinion the best and most well thought out motion system to date! Customer service... excellant!!! Like stated before, Bill want people to be satisfied and he wants to improve where necessary! For a first year decoy, I am really impressed with these!!
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Post by jwkimber45 on Feb 12, 2008 12:21:28 GMT -5
I'll agree with Matt!!! Color, size and motion are very important. You can't keep good color when the paint falls off......I got rid of all my BFs a few years ago. I'm all Dakota now, for full bodies.
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Post by ccordray on Feb 12, 2008 18:06:55 GMT -5
Kevin, Did you read my last post? I think I fully understand that everyone hunts differently and has a preference in decoys. When I say, "if you can't set decoys without acting like an ogre these dekes aren't for you" I don't see it as being rude but rather telling the truth that you can't expect to throw them around and pile them in a trailer and have them look brand new like you can with BFs. This is the same thing for Hardcores as well. The six I have can't take the abuse that a Bigfoot can and unless I slot bagged them they'd be trashed. I know not everything comes off the way it's meant on a message board but no disrespect is meant when I say this. There are a TON of different ways to kill geese and a TON of different decoys to use as well. God knows, I may go crazy at the Flambeau outlet this year and buy every FB goose they make and airbrush them! It all comes down to using what you feel like will give you a better advantage than the next guy. Good luck, CC
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Post by quackingtim on Feb 12, 2008 18:23:51 GMT -5
An ogre is a large, mean and hideous humanoid monster. Could be taken as rude. Anyway, I bag my GHG decoys in GHG bags and the paint is still coming off, and I still kill geese over them. I only act like an ogre after I kill geese
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Post by duff on Feb 12, 2008 18:27:56 GMT -5
Unless they are attempting to sell another brand... or sponsored by them. No doubt they are probably very nice dekes but I'll wait on unbiased reports.
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