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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 16, 2014 6:03:55 GMT -5
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Post by oldhoyt on Jul 16, 2014 7:17:16 GMT -5
I have no interest in shooting a captive deer and I don't care that someone else may want to, and even be willing to pay a ton of money to do so. I think that a good many of the people that oppose this feel that way because they beleive that shooting a penned deer with big antlers somehow cheapens or lessens their own hunting "achievements". Something like - "Why should so and so be able to pay 100K and shoot a monster buck in one hour when I have to go sit in the woods all season and never even see a deer like that". That way of thinking is just wrong-headed. I don't hunt because I need the meat, or to shoot a huge buck (though I won't pass one up), I hunt for the experience of hunting. Makes no difference to me if someone else would rather stick his gun barrel through a fence and squeeze the trigger.
I also don't see why a deer born/raised in captivity is any different than a pig or a cow as far as the government is concerned. There is no animal that is now considered livestock, that was not once a wild animal that has been domesticated and selectively bred over time. When does the change from wild to domesticated occur? In my mind, it's when you shut the gate with the animal behind it.
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Post by trapperdave on Jul 16, 2014 7:38:24 GMT -5
You're wrong.
The problem lies in the spread of disease, lack of ethics and the black eye it puts on true sportsmen.
Do some research.
Plenty of it out there.
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Post by oldhoyt on Jul 16, 2014 7:55:54 GMT -5
Actually, you're wrong.
When I state my opinion, I'm correct. If I lie about my opinion, then I'm wrong. All I've done is state my opinion.
I'm a wildlife biologist by training. I don't subscribe to the notion that deer are somehow unique in their ability to contract and spread disease. Industries are (or should be) responsible for controlling such things. I believe the talk about disease is just smoke.
What is your issue with ethics? Why is it unethical for someone to shoot a penned animal? It happens every second of every day in this country and others. What about a deer makes it any different?
What is this "black eye" you talk of? How does what someone else does affect what you do? Deer in pens are not hunted, they are shot. How is a true hunter affected by another guy that shoots a penned animal? Why do so many people feel the need to relate this to hunting?
If you take the emotional connection to deer and hunting that true hunters have out of the equation, then it instantly looks like any other business. There needs to be regulation and measures to control things like disease, but if it can be done with all other livestock, it can be done with deer. In my opinion.
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