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Post by araymond5 on Apr 4, 2014 7:42:40 GMT -5
Yesterday my boyfriend was out fishing on a boat when he was shot at with a rifle. After tracking the guy down he said he was beaver shooting. Is there a law of some sort that prohibits hunting in water that other people are present?
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Post by throbak on Apr 4, 2014 8:16:29 GMT -5
The Season is over as of now call a CO
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Post by featherduster on Apr 4, 2014 8:40:59 GMT -5
We have a section entitled ASK THE CONSERVATION OFFICER try posting your question there if you want a clear and accurate answer.
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Post by moose1am on Apr 4, 2014 10:53:16 GMT -5
Yesterday my boyfriend was out fishing on a boat when he was shot at with a rifle. After tracking the guy down he said he was beaver shooting. Is there a law of some sort that prohibits hunting in water that other people are present? In Indiana it's illegal to shoot across a body of water or a road unless you are waterfowl hunting with a shot gun in season. Waterfowl hunting season in Indiana ended on Jan 20th at some of the Indiana Fish and Wildlife Areas (Bluegrass F&W).
Either the guy is a fool and doesn't know the law or he's a lawbreaker who knows he was wrong. Either way he endangered people and should be turned in.
This is one of the reasons we have hunting seasons and hunters are required to wear hunter orange clothing while in the field during hunting season.
I was once out riding around in my truck and had a hunter point his high powered rifle at me so he could look at me though his rifle scope. I was sitting in my truck on the other side of the lake and watching him though my binoculars. It was not a good feeling watching someone point a high powered rifle at me like that. He probably didn't think I could see him until he noticed that I was looking back at him with binoculars.
Multi use facilities like the Indiana Fish and Wildlife areas have this problem when you have people out fishing and hunting at the same time on these properties. Fishing is closed during waterfowl hunting season on some areas.
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Post by goosepondmonster on Apr 4, 2014 11:31:30 GMT -5
In Indiana it's illegal to shoot across a body of water or a road unless you are waterfowl hunting with a shot gun in season. Waterfowl hunting season in Indiana ended on Jan 20th at some of the Indiana Fish and Wildlife Areas (Bluegrass F&W). If I remember correctly, the regs say in the lawful pursuit of game. I am not a CO, but to me that says any animal that is in season, not just waterfowl. |
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Post by featherduster on Apr 4, 2014 11:39:09 GMT -5
The individual could possibly have obtained a permit to destroy/eliminate the beaver because it has become a nuisance to his property,that's why you should ask the Conservation officer.
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Post by esshup on Apr 4, 2014 23:32:12 GMT -5
In season or out of season, that still doesn't override common sense gun safety. I agree, even after the fact, call a Conservation Officer and report it. The idiot should at the very least get a talking to.
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Post by moose1am on Apr 5, 2014 10:56:40 GMT -5
In Indiana it's illegal to shoot across a body of water or a road unless you are waterfowl hunting with a shot gun in season. Waterfowl hunting season in Indiana ended on Jan 20th at some of the Indiana Fish and Wildlife Areas (Bluegrass F&W). If I remember correctly, the regs say in the lawful pursuit of game. I am not a CO, but to me that says any animal that is in season, not just waterfowl. You are right. But then what IS the lawful pursuit of wildlife? Is it legal to shoot a Beaver in the water with a high powered rifle or a hand gun?
I know it's legal to shoot at waterfowl over the water using a shot gun and non lead shot at the Fish and Wildlife Areas that allow hunting of waterfowl. That's the only thing that I can think of that perfectly legal to do at the F&W areas that I hunt. Hovey's and Bluegrass F&W areas In fact the IDNR chases the fishermen off the water during waterfowl hunting season at Bluegrass.
Perhaps this should be posted in the "Ask the CO" section as well.
I'm trying to think of any other wildlife that would be legal to shoot over and upon the water? The rule is complex as they don't define what is legal within this shooting over water or roads section. One needs a lawyer or CO to review all the other rules to see what they mean by "lawful pursuit of wildlife".
Can we shoot at a deer that is swimming across a lake during deer hunting season? What about shooting at Doves across a body of water or that are flying across the road from your hunting blind?
I thought of one more legal thing to shoot on the water. Frogs can be shoot with a 22 using the bird shot shells.
Can anyone else thing of wildlife that can be shot on or over the water legally? I can't think of any thing else right now but given some time I bet we can think of a few other situations that might qualify.
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Post by goosepondmonster on Apr 7, 2014 8:12:41 GMT -5
If you are on one side of a creek and there is a deer/turkey/squirrel/rabbit on the other side, I'm assuming that is the intent of the law.
Shooting over a roadway is a no-no regardless of the situation.
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Post by joen on Apr 11, 2014 18:46:23 GMT -5
I do not have enough details. private or public ground,river or pond or lake. was the shooter on land shooting at beaver on land or water was the fisherman hidden by trees? you are leaving out a lot of details.
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Post by duff on Apr 12, 2014 5:32:25 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, the regs say in the lawful pursuit of game. I am not a CO, but to me that says any animal that is in season, not just waterfowl. You are right. But then what IS the lawful pursuit of wildlife? Is it legal to shoot a Beaver in the water with a high powered rifle or a hand gun?
I know it's legal to shoot at waterfowl over the water using a shot gun and non lead shot at the Fish and Wildlife Areas that allow hunting of waterfowl. That's the only thing that I can think of that perfectly legal to do at the F&W areas that I hunt. Hovey's and Bluegrass F&W areas In fact the IDNR chases the fishermen off the water during waterfowl hunting season at Bluegrass.
Perhaps this should be posted in the "Ask the CO" section as well.
I'm trying to think of any other wildlife that would be legal to shoot over and upon the water? The rule is complex as they don't define what is legal within this shooting over water or roads section. One needs a lawyer or CO to review all the other rules to see what they mean by "lawful pursuit of wildlife".
Can we shoot at a deer that is swimming across a lake during deer hunting season? What about shooting at Doves across a body of water or that are flying across the road from your hunting blind?
I thought of one more legal thing to shoot on the water. Frogs can be shoot with a 22 using the bird shot shells.
Can anyone else thing of wildlife that can be shot on or over the water legally? I can't think of any thing else right now but given some time I bet we can think of a few other situations that might qualify.
Don't overthink it, legal pursuit of game. If you have permit from the state and permission to be on that property then it is legal. Regardless of you legal ability to shoot over water or hunt you still can't discharge a firearm in a reckless manner, period. |
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Post by moose1am on Apr 12, 2014 18:49:20 GMT -5
While I agree with the last part of your post and that overrides all else IMHO. One could have a permit (hunting license and be on State Public Land and still not be legal shooting over a body of water unless it's with a shot gun and shooting at waterfowl. Waterfowl float when shot on water and can be retrieved with a dog or using a boat. Most anything else will sink when it's shot and killed.
But your point in the last part of your statement should be the guide to go by. Always understand where your bullet will end up and don't shoot unless it's safe. It's all just common sense. These rules are made with the intend of keeping people safe while allowing us to still hunt without over hunting the game. IMHO.
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Post by 70worm on May 17, 2014 20:11:35 GMT -5
I have a friend that owns 1000 acres with a 100 acre lake completely inside his property, he allows a couple of local COs to fish and hunt his property and the understanding is shot shell on water only no single solid projectile. Even on private property. But this is just what I was told.
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Post by trapperdave on May 19, 2014 7:51:41 GMT -5
That's horsecrap.
To the original post...... were y'all shot at or just heard a gunshot nearby? Many many people seam to confuse the two.
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