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Post by cedarthicket on Jan 15, 2014 21:57:14 GMT -5
The following is an updated list of sources for .358 Hoosier Rifles, Barrels, Ammo, etc. Readers of this thread are encouraged to post any additional sources. CHAMBERING REAMERS & GaugesPacific Tool and Gauge www.pacifictoolandgauge.com (Finish reamer Print Number D-32464) P.O. Box 2549 598 Ave. C White City, OR 97503 Phone: 541-826-5808 Email: pacpes@medford.netJGS Precision Tool Mfg., LLC www.jgstools.com60819 Selander Road Coos Bay, OR 97420 Phone: 541/267-4331 Fax: 541/267-5996 Email: sales@jgstools.comCUSTOM RIFLESA.J. Brown Arms (Alan Brown) www.ajbrownarms.com709 N. Washington St. (by appointment only) Bloomfield, IN 47424 Phone: 812-384-1056 Email: alan@ajbrownarms.comPenrod Precision (Mark Penrod) 312 College Ave. North Manchester, IN 46962 Phone: 260-982-8385 Email: markpenrod@kconline.comSki Rifles LLC (Robert Stenski) www.skirifles.biz204 Lucky Lane (by appointment only) Pendleton, IN 46064 Phone: 317-401-6222 Email: polish.avenger@comcast.netPhoenix Guns 5025 E. State St. (SR 46/SR 7) Columbus, IN 47201 Shop Phone: 812-378-5727 Other Phone: 812-447-0448 Email: hatcon1@sbcglobal.netSAVAGE RIFLESM&S Armament (Mario) www.msarmament.com1740 E. St. Rd. 163 Clinton, IN 47842 Phone: 765-505-1387 Email: mario@msarmament.comBARRELS (bolt action & T/C Encore)A.J. Brown Arms Phoenix Guns BARRELS (Savage bolt action)BFG Design LLC www.bfgcartridges.comBox 72 Clinton, IN 47842 Email: bryan@bfgcartridges.comBARRELS (T/C Encore & bolt action)Match Grade Machine (MGM) www.matchgrademachine.com963 North 1400 West St. George, UT 84770 Phone: 435-628-0071) Email: office@matchgrademachine.comBARRELS (bolt action)Douglas Barrels, Inc. (Stan Taylor) www.douglasbarrels.net5504 Big Tyler Road Charleston, WV 25313-1398 Phone: 304-776-1341 AMMUNITION
Jim Waldrip Ammo Manufacturer Email: mkb42h8kurtz@gmail.comA.J. Brown Arms Phoenix Guns Profire Arms and Supply www.profiresupply.com7341 Rockville Rd. Indianapolis, IN 46214 Phone: 317-757-8132 FORMED CASESA.J. Brown Arms BFG Design LLC M&S Armament Phoenix Guns Profire Arms and Supply RELOADING DIESHornady Manufacturing www.hornady.comATTN: Ben Syring 3625 West Old Potash Hwy. P.O. Box 1848 Grand Island, NE 68802 Phone: 800-338-3220 X261 Email: bsyring@hornady.comBFG Design LLC M&S Armament Phoenix Guns
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Post by jlemmons on Jan 16, 2014 4:04:55 GMT -5
MGM is not TC only they rebarreled my savage
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Post by cedarthicket on Jan 16, 2014 10:19:14 GMT -5
Thanks. I updated the MGM information to show they also make barrels for bolt actions. As you noted, they can also install the bolt action barrels. As always, potential customers need to check with suppliers to get details of what services they offer.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 16, 2014 14:33:48 GMT -5
Stickied...
Thanks...
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Post by cedarthicket on Feb 21, 2014 8:26:39 GMT -5
The following includes some updated information recently sent to known suppliers of rifles, barrels, and ammunition for the .358 Hoosier:
Because of the continuing shortage of .358 Winchester brass (the original parent case of the .358 Hoosier) many owners of existing .358 Hoosier rifles and barrels are forced to use various brands of .308 Winchester commercial brass to make Hoosier cases. Some (not all) of this brass is a little too thick in the neck area to chamber in existing rifles without first outside neck turning the formed brass. In order to make it easier to use commercial .308 Winchester brass as the parent case (and not needing to neck turn the brass) in future barrels, Pacific Tool and Gauge has made a modification to the finish chamber reamer that they produce. The headspace and other dimensions stay the same, but the neck diameter is increased about .004 inches. Also, about .020 inches longer freebore is used in the latest version of the .358 Hoosier to better accommodate slightly longer overall cartridge lengths. The finish reamer Print Number is D-32464.
It has been requested that future .358 Hoosier barrels be chambered with the latest reamer dimensions. However, if or when a supplier does this is strictly up to them. The same thing holds true regarding possibly “opening up” some existing chambers to the new dimensions. As you know, the cartridge and all that goes with it are in the public domain.
There still exists the caution regarding surplus military .308 (7.62 X 51 NATO) brass. It may have thicker case walls and necks than commercial brass and a somewhat smaller powder capacity. Also, some of it may have been fired in machine guns having very “generous “ chambers (which can make initial resizing more difficult).
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Post by cedarthicket on Jun 30, 2014 20:12:10 GMT -5
Douglas Barrels, Inc. has been added to the original post as a source of custom barrels (and installation on customer’s actions) for bolt action rifles. Also, Profire Arms and Supply has been added as a source of loaded ammo as well as formed cases. See list in original post. BARRELS (bolt action)Douglas Barrels, Inc. (Stan Taylor) www.douglasbarrels.net5504 Big Tyler Road Charleston, WV 25313-1398 Phone: 304-776-1341 AMMUNITION & FORMED CASESProfire Arms and Supply www.profiresupply.com7341 Rockville Rd. Indianapolis, IN 46214 Phone: 317-757-8132
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Post by bullseye69 on Dec 24, 2014 0:38:51 GMT -5
winchester 308 brass is the best for the necking up to 358. no turning required.
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Post by art338wm on Jun 3, 2015 19:59:19 GMT -5
Unless the person I just spoke with moments ago at M&S Armaments was giving me misinformation, M&S Armaments is NO LONGER building rifles in 358 Hoosier, so the list needs to be updated.
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Post by omegahunter on Jun 12, 2015 9:31:23 GMT -5
Unless the person I just spoke with moments ago at M&S Armaments was giving me misinformation, M&S Armaments is NO LONGER building rifles in 358 Hoosier, so the list needs to be updated. That would not surprise me. Had a guy bring me his rifle to look at because he found out I was playing around with the Hoosier. He could not even get the ammo that they made to chamber in the rifle they converted for him. Not sure what the specific issue was. I tried to get some of my ammo to chamber and it would not either. I just handed him the rifle back and told him to return it and did not inspect it further. I suspected that the receiver had moved when they went to tighten the barrel nut and they had not checked chambering after assembly.
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Post by mrfixit on Jun 19, 2015 18:09:14 GMT -5
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Post by oldhoyt on Jun 22, 2015 7:45:48 GMT -5
Unless the person I just spoke with moments ago at M&S Armaments was giving me misinformation, M&S Armaments is NO LONGER building rifles in 358 Hoosier, so the list needs to be updated. That would not surprise me. Had a guy bring me his rifle to look at because he found out I was playing around with the Hoosier. He could not even get the ammo that they made to chamber in the rifle they converted for him. Not sure what the specific issue was. I tried to get some of my ammo to chamber and it would not either. I just handed him the rifle back and told him to return it and did not inspect it further. I suspected that the receiver had moved when they went to tighten the barrel nut and they had not checked chambering after assembly. Sounds like improper headspace, and also poor quality control. I reload 358 Hoosier. I have to be careful to use the correct shellholder, as one will not get the shoulder as far back as it needs to be to chamber easily. It will still chamber but takes more effort than I like. Switch to the proper shellholder and the bolt handle drops in like it should. I'm not saying the OP's problem can be fixed with a different shellholder (sounds like he's not reloading anyway), because the ammo came from the same folks that set the rifle up, and Omega's ammo wouldn't work either. Hopefully the maker fixes the issue free of charge!
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Post by aakhunt on Sept 16, 2015 17:10:11 GMT -5
I recently aquired a .358 hoosier (.243 savage 99f conversion) I'm looking for a source for ammo
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Post by drs on Sept 17, 2015 4:48:28 GMT -5
I recently aquired a .358 hoosier (.243 savage 99f conversion) I'm looking for a source for ammo You'll most likely have to make (Form) your cases for your .358 Hoosier, unless some ammunition company decides to load it. I'd suggest that you use RCBS forming dies, and .358 Winchester brass (IF you can find some).
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Post by HuntMeister on Sept 17, 2015 6:55:07 GMT -5
cedarthicket listed ammo sources above but it has now been awhile since he did that. I understand that profire is no longer making the ammo. Have you tried the others listed?
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Post by omegahunter on Sept 17, 2015 10:00:04 GMT -5
I recently aquired a .358 hoosier (.243 savage 99f conversion) I'm looking for a source for ammo Where are you located? That will help to recommend where to look for ammo. AJ and Phoenix are southern IN and seems to me that maybe the place in Wabash was doing Hoosier ammo?
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Post by aakhunt on Sept 17, 2015 15:38:29 GMT -5
I've tried calling AJ but machine said he was out until Friday. I hope to load my own ammo at some point but don't currently do so that being said may be a good time to start.
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Post by bullseye69 on Sept 17, 2015 16:34:09 GMT -5
I've tried calling AJ but machine said he was out until Friday. I hope to load my own ammo at some point but don't currently do so that being said may be a good time to start. I called Hornady and got my dies from them. They work fine!
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Post by btmidwest on Sept 24, 2015 4:23:50 GMT -5
I ordered their Hoosier dies about 3 weeks ago and just got an email that they've shipped them.
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Post by bullseye69 on Sept 24, 2015 9:16:14 GMT -5
I ordered their Hoosier dies about 3 weeks ago and just got an email that they've shipped them. Your lucky ,mine took 6 weeks to get.
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Post by drs on Sept 24, 2015 10:05:20 GMT -5
I ordered their Hoosier dies about 3 weeks ago and just got an email that they've shipped them. Your lucky ,mine took 6 weeks to get. Not unusual taking several weeks on special order dies.
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