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Post by Woody Williams on May 7, 2013 17:41:43 GMT -5
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Post by squirrelhunter on May 8, 2013 3:35:38 GMT -5
They'll use that 37% from family and friends to help push Universal Background Checks.
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Post by swilk on May 8, 2013 7:10:33 GMT -5
You do know that they will have a different way of interpreting that data dont ya?
"As soon as the first AWB was put in place (1994) the rate of gun deaths in America dropped significantly. When the first NICS system was put into place in 1998 the rate dropped again. This proves that gun control works to make our streets safer. We should do more .... for the children".
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Post by Woody Williams on May 8, 2013 7:44:10 GMT -5
You do know that they will have a different way of interpreting that data dont ya? "As soon as the first AWB was put in place (1994) the rate of gun deaths in America dropped significantly. When the first NICS system was put into place in 1998 the rate dropped again. This proves that gun control works to make our streets safer. We should do more .... for the children". Yes, since only 2% of murders are committed by ALL rifles that percent has to be a big player in a 39% reduction.. Of course our great DOJ has stated that the AWB had little to no effect on the crime rate..
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Post by swilk on May 8, 2013 8:20:40 GMT -5
Truth matters not .... repeat the same ol crap often enough and some folks will believe it.
90% of Americans want background checks ring a bell?
You couldnt get 90% of Americans to agree that the sun comes up in the East yet they try and tell us that 90% of us support a complicated issue like background checks. Total bullcrap but some will believe it.
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Post by Woody Williams on May 8, 2013 8:27:15 GMT -5
Truth matters not .... repeat the same ol crap often enough and some folks will believe it. 90% of Americans want background checks ring a bell? You couldnt get 90% of Americans to agree that the sun comes up in the East yet they try and tell us that 90% of us support a complicated issue like background checks. Total bullcrap but some will believe it. I agree 110%... The 2% rifle homicides will never be mentioned by the antis as it hasn't in the past when Feinstein was pushing the "AWB ban" this go around. I've yet to find the "90% poll" question.. How it was worded and what demography was used would tell us scores..
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Post by Russ Koon on May 8, 2013 11:55:17 GMT -5
Woody, the search I just made indicates that the source was a poll by the Quinnipiac University. The actual question asked and much of the demography is to be found on the site www.quinnipiac.edu and the date of the poll was apparently Feb 7, this year. Of course that was just two months after the CT. school massacre. I always wonder about the accuracy of telephone polls, myself, as I don't know anyone personally who lets the caller get past their introduction, except to request that their number be excluded from further calls. But aside from that and the fact that the majority of their calling was done in the east, and the timing factor mentioned above, the results would appear to be accurate. That's going to be the problem, as I mentioned before, in stopping the background checks. The devil is there, but it's in the details. And the majority of people know someone who probably shouldn't be trusted with a table knife, let alone a firearm of any kind, and they assume that the background checks will screen out those individuals from acquiring such weapons. It's a tough sell to impress on the general public that in truth, government screening has not been very successful, government rules against the possession of stuff has been a miserable failure, and the more likely situation will be that such checks will much more often result in people who are NO danger being denied the ability to legally possess the means of self defense they need, and becoming victims due to the government's attempt to protect us all. Everyone knows that crazy kid down the block shouldn't even have a slingshot, but they don't think the checks would prevent Uncle Bob from keeping his shotguns because Aunt Sally had that episode years ago that resulted in a brief stay in a rubber room or a prescription for anti-depressants. There are some encouraging details in the whole report, too, if you have time to look it up and inspect it. But IMO, the most important factors in the apparently honestly reported percentage pro-checks, were that the polling was mostly done in eastern cities and 'burbs, just two months after Sandy Hook. BHO's honesty in continuing to use that statistic from one liberal university's poll of mostly eastern liberals so soon after the tragedy, and representing it as a more permanent national figure, while less than completely honest, is probably no worse than most statements we hear coming from elected mouths. The problem is real, and we need to address it as best we can by educating as many people as possible to the truth in those details. Not gonna be easy.
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Post by Russ Koon on May 8, 2013 11:59:52 GMT -5
Darn! I miss the "Modify" function!
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Post by Woody Williams on May 8, 2013 17:09:19 GMT -5
Darn! I miss the "Modify" function! Which one is that Russ? You can still "edit" your posts..
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Post by Russ Koon on May 9, 2013 11:39:36 GMT -5
OK! Another big job done!
I'm getting slower in adapting to changes. Main problem was I haven't convinced this thing to recognize me again as the same old guy who has been here since about the start of the site.
Keeps calling me "guest".
I suppose it's about time I took the time to do whatever's necessary to stay registered so I don't get caught complaining about issues that really aren't issues....again 8^).
Do I need to delete my original registration somehow and then re-register? No. wait. On second thought, don't tell me. Be good practice for me to try to figure it out. Thinking about a "smart phone" on down the line, and I need to build some skills 8^).
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Post by Woody Williams on May 9, 2013 12:27:05 GMT -5
OK! Another big job done! I'm getting slower in adapting to changes. Main problem was I haven't convinced this thing to recognize me again as the same old guy who has been here since about the start of the site. Keeps calling me "guest". I suppose it's about time I took the time to do whatever's necessary to stay registered so I don't get caught complaining about issues that really aren't issues....again 8^). Do I need to delete my original registration somehow and then re-register? No. wait. On second thought, don't tell me. Be good practice for me to try to figure it out. Thinking about a "smart phone" on down the line, and I need to build some skills 8^). No no dont delete your account!!! . Either clear you cache or just delete your HI bookmark . Then type in hunt-Indiana.com in you browser bar. Save that as a favorite and make a book mark out of it. Log In and you should be AOK
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