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Apr 27, 2013 0:13:11 GMT -5
Post by forrest1985 on Apr 27, 2013 0:13:11 GMT -5
I'm new to turkey hunting whats the most effective way to start being a sucessful turkey hunter? I need to know how and where to hunt in the evenings and the mornings also I have no idea what calls to use and when really need help with that one. I have a slate and box call but again I am unsure of what to do don't want to over call so if you guys would walk me through some scenarios please!
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Apr 27, 2013 8:58:39 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 8:58:39 GMT -5
Your best bet is to find a tutor that will take you along. You'll learn more in one day with someone who knows what he's doing then any other way.
Basic tips are to not over call. Never call to a tom that isn't on the ground. Start high in the morn, on a ridge or high spot. Don't try to call a tom that is above you on a hill or ridge. Know the natural barriers of the land. Simple little things can make a tom hang up.
A normal day would be arrive at daylight, be in a good listning spot. Try a owl hoot or two to entice a gobble. When you hear one, get as close as you can being careful to not bump him. Find a tree to sit against. Wait. Make no calls except a few purrs and liht tree calls. Do not call TO the tom unttil you hear him fly down. Then make some calls. If he gobbles, he has you located. If he is not with hens he might come. Make sure to adjust your sitting position so that you can shoot him. Always expect him to show up at the last place he gobbles. Don't move. Call only enough to keep him interested and to locate him.
If he doesn't come wait at least 30 min. unless another one gobbles close. If there are no gobbles take a nap and wait for mid morn. Use your box call or crow to locate another bird that will gobble. These birds are normally looking for companionship and are easier to kill.
Remember, you can't out think a turkey. His brain is the size of a peanut. He can't reason. But he can react well to events that happens during his day. Learn the phases of a turkeys breeding season. It will help you uunderstand what the turkeys are doing at different times.
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Apr 27, 2013 23:18:29 GMT -5
Post by forrest1985 on Apr 27, 2013 23:18:29 GMT -5
Thanks for the info I do have a few questions though. Do only toms gobble? Typically when is a better more active time to hunt in the morning or evenings? How do you approach an evening hunt where would you begin? I had a Tom gobble about 70 yes or so in front of me the other night but I didn't know what to do so I just sat silently I don't know where he went . I have a box and slate call but I don't know the lingo of the sounds and when to make them and I'm pretty much on my own I wish I could learn from someone how to turkey hunt
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Apr 28, 2013 0:52:15 GMT -5
Post by forrest1985 on Apr 28, 2013 0:52:15 GMT -5
What do you mean by light tree calls? Also generally how late into the morning do you try and hunt for turkey are they like deer and bed up during the afternoon ?
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Post by goosepondmonster on Apr 28, 2013 1:20:55 GMT -5
Turkeys will move around all day long.
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Apr 28, 2013 2:14:50 GMT -5
Post by bsutravis on Apr 28, 2013 2:14:50 GMT -5
My advice would be to get some turkey hunting videos, or watch some of the Outdoor Channels, or even search YouTube for turkey hunting and you'll get a chance to hear the difference between a yelp and a pur, a cut and a put, etc.. You can kill a turkey by simply knowing a simple yelp sound that a hen makes but there's no way to explain the sound. By simply knowing how to create the sound on a slate or box call and get the rythm and cadence down you can kill a turkey. The biggest issue to overcome as a turkey hunter is patience, and too many hunters enjoy listening to themselves make turkey noises on their calls. Once you yelp and that gobbler responds, then he knows you are there. The natural habit of a gobbler is to gobble at the sound of the yelp and then the hens will come to the gobbler.... When you hunt you are asking the gobbler to do what he typically doesn't need to do, which is come to the hen. Therefore give that Tom just enough to keep him looking for you and stay patient! My other advice would be to get a ground blind and set up on a field with a few hen decoys out in front and call a turkey in from there. A blind will let you get away with 1000 times more movement and mistakes than you can ever possibly get away with while sitting against a tree. Once you are familiar with the habits of turkey hunting from a blind, you can move on to the more aggressive approach of "running and gunning" for gobblers. Just my .02 cents.....
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Apr 28, 2013 6:29:22 GMT -5
Post by Woody Williams on Apr 28, 2013 6:29:22 GMT -5
My advice would be to get some turkey hunting videos, or watch some of the Outdoor Channels, or even search YouTube for turkey hunting and you'll get a chance to hear the difference between a yelp and a pur, a cut and a put, etc.. You can kill a turkey by simply knowing a simple yelp sound that a hen makes but there's no way to explain the sound. By simply knowing how to create the sound on a slate or box call and get the rythm and cadence down you can kill a turkey. The biggest issue to overcome as a turkey hunter is patience, and too many hunters enjoy listening to themselves make turkey noises on their calls. Once you yelp and that gobbler responds, then he knows you are there. The natural habit of a gobbler is to gobble at the sound of the yelp and then the hens will come to the gobbler.... When you hunt you are asking the gobbler to do what he typically doesn't need to do, which is come to the hen. Therefore give that Tom just enough to keep him looking for you and stay patient! My other advice would be to get a ground blind and set up on a field with a few hen decoys out in front and call a turkey in from there. A blind will let you get away with 1000 times more movement and mistakes than you can ever possibly get away with while sitting against a tree. Once you are familiar with the habits of turkey hunting from a blind, you can move on to the more aggressive approach of "running and gunning" for gobblers. Just my .02 cents..... And a good .02 cents it was..
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Apr 28, 2013 6:35:02 GMT -5
Post by Woody Williams on Apr 28, 2013 6:35:02 GMT -5
Thanks for the info I do have a few questions though. Do only toms gobble? Typically when is a better more active time to hunt in the morning or evenings? How do you approach an evening hunt where would you begin? I had a Tom gobble about 70 yes or so in front of me the other night but I didn't know what to do so I just sat silently I don't know where he went . I have a box and slate call but I don't know the lingo of the sounds and when to make them and I'm pretty much on my own I wish I could learn from someone how to turkey hunt A couple clucks or purrs along with using your hand to scratch leaves would be enough to get his attention - then do nothing but wait.
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Apr 28, 2013 6:40:29 GMT -5
Post by bowhunterjohn on Apr 28, 2013 6:40:29 GMT -5
Turkeys will move around all day long. This is very helpful, they are not like deer, they move all day. Which is nice I am no expert by any means. I do LOVE turkey hunting and it can be frustrating. Get good decoys, get a good box call and slate call. Get out to your property in the morning and just listen for gobbles, then try to get within 100 yards and set down, usually the turkeys will head for a field sooner or later or a big opening if there is one on the property in a secluded area. They see REALLY well, so if you get one coming in make sure you raise your gun up while its head is down or behind something Good luck where you located at ? I live in Fort Wayne and while I am no expert I'd be glad to help if your close
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Apr 28, 2013 6:43:16 GMT -5
Post by bowhunterjohn on Apr 28, 2013 6:43:16 GMT -5
My advice would be to get some turkey hunting videos, or watch some of the Outdoor Channels, or even search YouTube for turkey hunting and you'll get a chance to hear the difference between a yelp and a pur, a cut and a put, etc.. You can kill a turkey by simply knowing a simple yelp sound that a hen makes but there's no way to explain the sound. By simply knowing how to create the sound on a slate or box call and get the rythm and cadence down you can kill a turkey. The biggest issue to overcome as a turkey hunter is patience, and too many hunters enjoy listening to themselves make turkey noises on their calls. Once you yelp and that gobbler responds, then he knows you are there. The natural habit of a gobbler is to gobble at the sound of the yelp and then the hens will come to the gobbler.... When you hunt you are asking the gobbler to do what he typically doesn't need to do, which is come to the hen. Therefore give that Tom just enough to keep him looking for you and stay patient! My other advice would be to get a ground blind and set up on a field with a few hen decoys out in front and call a turkey in from there. A blind will let you get away with 1000 times more movement and mistakes than you can ever possibly get away with while sitting against a tree. Once you are familiar with the habits of turkey hunting from a blind, you can move on to the more aggressive approach of "running and gunning" for gobblers. Just my .02 cents..... yeah, this, great advise. I tend to over call if the birds will not come my way but I can see them. I've had it work and had it not work, but I believe just enough. I do however hunt a property that I have to call the birds away from their normal morning pattern, so I use an excited hen call a lot, but I do tend to over call. Remember just like deer hunting you'll NEVER learn it all LOL
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Apr 28, 2013 8:05:28 GMT -5
Post by bsutravis on Apr 28, 2013 8:05:28 GMT -5
And the Number One Rule: There Are No Rules (other than making dang sure of your target!)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2013 10:41:32 GMT -5
And the Number One Rule: There Are No Rules (other than making dang sure of your target!) Ain't that the truth! Just when you think you've got turkeys figured out, you WILL get humbled. For an animal that is so stupid, they can sure make a fool out of me at times. The number one thing I've come to learn about turkey hunting is that the most successful guys are the most patient. That goes to not over calling, sitting very still for long periods of time, and hanging in there when it seems like there isn't a turkey around for a country mile. What makes them gobble their heads off one day and be completely silent the next is a mystery we will never figure out...but you can still kill silent birds if you have the patience.
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Apr 28, 2013 11:03:19 GMT -5
Post by schall53 on Apr 28, 2013 11:03:19 GMT -5
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Apr 28, 2013 12:55:42 GMT -5
Post by daworz on Apr 28, 2013 12:55:42 GMT -5
Alot of Great Answers, Just ask qustions, read, watch Video's, Youtube is full of video's about calling, and Hunting. Enjoy... Where do you Live, we have members all over the state, and I am sure 1 or 2 would help you out... Find a Mentor is a Great Idea.. If I can help in anyway just Hollar.
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Apr 28, 2013 22:30:48 GMT -5
Post by forrest1985 on Apr 28, 2013 22:30:48 GMT -5
I'm in columbus but thanks I wish you were closer! I went today and seen a strutter he had 4 or 5 hens with him i tried to beat him to the spot I thought he would go but do to the terrain I was unable to do that I made a few calls not really knowing what to do after about 45 minutes and not seeing or hearing a bird I made my way to the field edge and about 30 seconds after I stepped into the field so did the Tom he seen me and ran off
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Apr 28, 2013 22:32:48 GMT -5
Post by forrest1985 on Apr 28, 2013 22:32:48 GMT -5
I'm getting closer at least I'm trying for years I wasn't even interested in turkey hunting but know it intrigues me
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Apr 29, 2013 7:05:50 GMT -5
Post by elmo on Apr 29, 2013 7:05:50 GMT -5
Well now you know where at least 1 bird is. I would get close to that field edge early in the morning. call sparingly and sit tight. Try not to walk into the field. wait and be patient. Much of the time the bird that you see and kill isn't the one that you heard. You know where one was strutting they normally strut in the same area over and over. If you can get close and be in some cover you may not have to call at all. I watched a bird strut for 3 days in a row in the same spot right next to a fence row. I got in there an hour before first light and was laying in the tall grass 25 yards from his spot. Never called once and he came to his strut zone and I killed him. Sometimes you just have to know where they want to be.
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Apr 29, 2013 13:02:02 GMT -5
Post by featherduster on Apr 29, 2013 13:02:02 GMT -5
And the Number One Rule: There Are No Rules (other than making dang sure of your target!) Ain't that the truth! Just when you think you've got turkeys figured out, you WILL get humbled. For an animal that is so stupid, they can sure make a fool out of me at times. The number one thing I've come to learn about turkey hunting is that the most successful guys are the most patient. That goes to not over calling, sitting very still for long periods of time, and hanging in there when it seems like there isn't a turkey around for a country mile. What makes them gobble their heads off one day and be completely silent the next is a mystery we will never figure out...but you can still kill silent birds if you have the patience. excellent advice.
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