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Post by Genesis 27:3 on Feb 18, 2013 17:11:35 GMT -5
The "Haint" turkey call is not that easy for me to learn. In the instructional dvd that came with it, it stated that on a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the toughest, mouth calls are a 10 and the Haint is a 2. I disagree. I have watched almost every youtube video I can find also. I have no clue where I am going wrong. I always sounds to high pitched to me and I am using the least amount of air flow as possible. I have the rythm down, just not the pitch. Anyone else use this call?
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Post by Genesis 27:3 on Feb 18, 2013 17:12:23 GMT -5
and by the way, the call sounds amazing when it's used correctly. Just struggling getting there.
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Post by GS1 on Feb 18, 2013 19:43:46 GMT -5
Have not (and will not) try it. At the convention last weekend there were a lot of people with the same problem you are having. Maybe not the pitch problem, but the inability to sound like a turkey. About the only people I have actually seen do it well all had D-N-D shirts on. The company came out if nowhere because of the successful marketing of this one call.
Don't give up on it. It might come around.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2013 20:43:23 GMT -5
D N D was pretty successful long before the haint came out. Most of them are good ole Ky. boys. They kill plenty of turkeys and waterfowl with their calls.
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Post by GS1 on Feb 18, 2013 21:46:23 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2013 4:18:58 GMT -5
Yep.
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Post by Boilermaker on Feb 19, 2013 13:09:32 GMT -5
Have never tried it...I was told by a wise old turkey hunter imitating the gobble of a turkey is a good way to be mistaken for a turkey by a tresspassing hunter.
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Post by GS1 on Feb 19, 2013 13:27:52 GMT -5
Gobbling (maybe not on a haint though) is a good way to attract other hunters. A friend of mine was shot last spring while yelping, by a member of his own hunting party. Hopefully if I'm hunting there is already something gobbling, so I make sure I have nothing swinging around my neck or off my waist, no bright colors anywhere and do not conceal myself enough that I can not see and an approaching hunter can not see me.
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Post by Genesis 27:3 on Feb 21, 2013 7:20:49 GMT -5
The videos I watched made it seem so easy. I may have taken the bait, hook, line and sinker but you dont know if you dont try. Bottom line is, I may try to pratice a little more with it but if I continue with the same issue I will abandon the call. I did send DND an email asking questions in regards to the call and they have yet to respond. Thanks for the input guys! Good luck this spring!
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Post by GS1 on Feb 21, 2013 10:16:32 GMT -5
Have you ever tried a tube call? You can get as realistic yelps off of them as you can any other call. They too take some practice, but unlike the Haint, when you get it figured out you will have a call that will make all the sounds of a turkey and not just a gobble. Time better well spent, IMO. They also seem to work when not much else will. Sorta like a wingbone or trumpet call.
Another option and one that is probably just as productive is learning a jake/gobbler yelp and cluck. Especially in pressured areas and after flydown, gobblers tend to do more clucking and yelping than gobbling to locate other birds.
If all else fails you can get a Quaker Boy shaker call, pour a little water in the end of it and have some good jake gobbles. It will yelp also. A double sided box call is also a pretty foolproof gobble call too. I know a guy that makes a box call strictly for gobbling that I believe is tuned for gobbler yelps.
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Post by Woody Williams on Feb 21, 2013 10:32:19 GMT -5
"Tube call"? I had one and TRIED to use it when Knight and Hale first came ourt with one. I about wore my lip out! I ended up putting it in my hunting junk drawer and forgot about it.. A couple years back I was cleaning out ths drawer when I spied a crank call that I had bought in Missouri about the same time I bough the K & H call. Wow! I had just seen that crank call on eBay going for a $100 bill. (It was like this one - compare.ebay.com/like/140916447307?var=lv<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar )I dug out all these old calls and listed them. The K & H tube call and instructional record sold for a little over $50. Got $125 for the crank call.. |
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Post by GS1 on Feb 21, 2013 11:32:33 GMT -5
Don't feel bad Woody, I heard Harold had trouble running it when they first started making them. Old calls are like old fishing lures. Lots of history and some pretty good money collecting dust somewhere in someone's house. It's sad that the way calls/lures are produced today that 50-60 years from now most will not be worth much more than they are today. Probably the rarity of "Made in the USA" will add more value than age. Most aren't even that now  |
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Post by tomthreetoes on Feb 24, 2013 10:24:19 GMT -5
My old Lynch World Champion box make a better gobble IMO and takes zero practice. The Haint call popularity is the result of a very good marketing plan. Woody, I wonder what my Dead Silence whistle would have brought on ebay if I hadn't thrown it away?? LOL
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Post by Genesis 27:3 on Mar 13, 2013 17:28:18 GMT -5
Well after plenty of time trying to use the call i determined the call to either be defective or I am just not getting it. It was either give it to a friend or I was going bid it farewell with a .22-250 round. Friend decided he wanted to give it a try so I spared its life! and BTW DND never did return my phone calls or my emails. Probably wont be using their products any time soon. Happy hunting everyone!
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Post by indianagooseman on Mar 14, 2013 19:55:00 GMT -5
I got one a couple years ago and it did take me a while to get it right. I remember getting frustrated like you but it finally came around. I dont recall what the ah-ha technique was but i do know that i had to practice often to be proficient. I had the opportunity to use it in the field last year during youth season when w had some gobblers hang up inside the woods on a ridge, we were set up along the field edge. The first try didnt come out like I knew it should so it was short lived but the second try sounded great. All 3 gobblers responded immediately and came hauling tail fans in on a string. No doubt the call is tough to drive but I think it's worth it to have that little extra something in your pocket when the time comes.
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Post by Genesis 27:3 on Mar 15, 2013 5:49:44 GMT -5
Indianagooseman-I am glad that you have found success with it! And the call truly does sound amazing when used right and it's handsomely and well crafted. Just couldnt make the gobble low enough. Had the cadence down put it was just too high pitched. I tried giving it less air and force but then I couldnt get it to make a sound. Think I need to try another brand. Good luck with it this year!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2013 17:54:18 GMT -5
I see where DND is suing Knight and Hale for patent rights on a similar call.
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Post by Genesis 27:3 on Apr 9, 2013 7:22:29 GMT -5
Timex are you referring to the "Hale Fire"? Was checking that call out and was wondering if it was any easier to use. They sound great on some of the videos and seem to be a little easier.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2013 18:59:41 GMT -5
ACcording to DND, they are the same or nearly the same.
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Post by Genesis 27:3 on Apr 10, 2013 6:03:11 GMT -5
ok thank you sir.
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