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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2012 12:25:45 GMT -5
Turkeys don't need forests to thrive. Crops or pasture land works just peachie. No doubt Indiana could sustain a 2 bird limit in the spring, 3 total. Especially in the south part. Maybe a first step would be split the state in two zones, like is done with waterfowl.
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Post by throbak on Feb 13, 2012 13:53:43 GMT -5
The Birds do need the Forest to roost in tho
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Post by dadfsr on Feb 13, 2012 14:41:43 GMT -5
The Birds do need the Forest to roost in tho Nope! Go down to Texas...or places that don't have much over head high-they'll find the highest thing they can to roost in, even if it's a telephone pole.
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Post by hornharvester on Feb 13, 2012 14:49:07 GMT -5
East - Northeast counties dont have many birds and no way should a two bird limit state wide be implemented. Heck they just opened up some of the counties to spring hunting. h.h.
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Post by throbak on Feb 13, 2012 15:31:19 GMT -5
The different subspeices have their own little Habits
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2012 17:53:30 GMT -5
Turkeys can roost in forests, but don't need anything more than a few trees or bushes to get off the ground. Their range is a lot bigger than deer and can cover miles per day.
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Post by posiedon on Feb 13, 2012 21:34:36 GMT -5
I know some counties that could use a 2 bird limit, personally around me I have been seeing fewer and fewer birds. I think nests are getting torn up by coons and other predators. Can't remember last time I seen a pullet.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2012 23:11:18 GMT -5
The reason southern Indiana has the highest Turkey population in Indiana, is because southern Indiana, has the highest Forest acerage.
Kentucky has so many Turkeys, because KY has large forest throughout the state. IMO
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Post by swilk on Feb 14, 2012 13:56:33 GMT -5
East - Northeast counties dont have many birds and no way should a two bird limit state wide be implemented. Heck they just opened up some of the counties to spring hunting. h.h. Wasnt to awful long ago that some of the southern counties didnt have many birds. I can remember the first time I saw a turkey in Gibson County .... less than 20 years since then.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2012 14:19:25 GMT -5
Saw a winter flock of hens the other day there of over 100 birds. No forest in sight or anywhere close. Lots of corn though.
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Post by goosepondmonster on Feb 14, 2012 14:43:00 GMT -5
Wasnt to awful long ago that some of the southern counties didnt have many birds. I can remember the first time I saw a turkey in Gibson County .... less than 20 years since then. I remember when I was in high school, a little over ten years ago, the only time we would see turkeys was when we were driving around on the Crane base. Now I see them all the time out in fields and such. Their population has increased substantially in this part of the state.
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Post by swilk on Feb 14, 2012 15:39:18 GMT -5
Yep ...... they have exploded in the surrounding counties. It wont be to awful long and a multiple bird spring season will be needed in some counties. Not wanted .... needed.
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Post by tickman1961 on Feb 15, 2012 23:07:48 GMT -5
Plenty of turkeys around these parts. Would enjoy the opportunity to stay out in the woods, kill or no kill..
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Post by waynecountytrio on Feb 16, 2012 16:18:58 GMT -5
i hunt with several different buddies every year and generally i am the last one to shoot a bird...drives my wife insane,,,i really enjoy the adrenaline rush of a gobbling tom at 400 yds,,,300...200...and on down to the chest vibrating ones down to within a yd,, you thunder chicken chasers know what i mean,,if two birds is your choice i completely understand,,but i prefer less bag limits and more game,,ill pay a lil higher premium on my vehicle insurance to see more critters crossing the roads
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Post by firstwd on Mar 6, 2012 14:33:26 GMT -5
The reason southern Indiana has the highest Turkey population in Indiana, is because southern Indiana, has the highest Forest acerage. Kentucky has so many Turkeys, because KY has large forest throughout the state. IMO How about, Southern Indiana was the first and longest area turkeys were stocked? They let populations grow for several years before they started socking birds in other counties, then another big gap before they spot stocked them to fill in the holes. Also, since most of a coyotes diet is small critters that thrive in grass land and crop field areas, turkey nest in the large wooded areas have a better chance of survival.
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Post by parrothead on Mar 7, 2012 6:25:31 GMT -5
By the amount of one shot followed right by another i thought we might of already had a two bird limit. I know some are misses and follow up shots but not that many.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2012 7:42:56 GMT -5
Yes, but there is a reason the IDNR chose southern IN for restocking....because of the better habitat, and larger forest. I actually lived on some land that borderd Camp Atterbury back in the 1970's, and 1980's. I remember seeing the Turkeys that got reintroduced into Camp Atterbury. We actually seen them while Deer hunting on our land. At that time Seeing a Turkey, in IN was very rare, most IN hunters had never seen one yet. The reason southern Indiana has the highest Turkey population in Indiana, is because southern Indiana, has the highest Forest acerage. Kentucky has so many Turkeys, because KY has large forest throughout the state. IMO How about, Southern Indiana was the first and longest area turkeys were stocked? They let populations grow for several years before they started socking birds in other counties, then another big gap before they spot stocked them to fill in the holes. Also, since most of a coyotes diet is small critters that thrive in grass land and crop field areas, turkey nest in the large wooded areas have a better chance of survival.
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Post by tenring on Mar 7, 2012 8:22:31 GMT -5
Who would have thought that so many biologists would congregate on one Internet forum!
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Post by firstwd on Mar 7, 2012 8:26:54 GMT -5
Who would have thought that so many biologists would congregate on one Internet forum! Almost as bad an engineers sometimes.
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Post by Woody Williams on Mar 7, 2012 8:53:42 GMT -5
The original stocking of birds was at Mogan Ridge. Yes, it is heavily wooded. That area was strictly controlled on access., vehicle or by foot. Ity was erroneously thought that turkeys need big timber. They don't. As Timex said they can roost anywhere as long as they get high enough uo to not get nabbed by a predator.
After they caught on there they were trapped and the stocking started eleswhere. The DNR was surprised at how well the birds did in the spoil bank areas of strip mines.
2 birds? That is up to Steve Backs...
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