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Post by bowhunterjohn on Dec 25, 2011 21:33:00 GMT -5
Well I have a landowner that has a goose problem and asked if I could help.
Problem, he doesn't want guns, and there are a couple other houses around, which the homeowners want them removed to as they are tired of the "crap" literally.
Another problem is I can't go flinging arrows in the air, I am not going to spend the money to set my bow up to shoot the foo-foo arrows as I have a whisker biscut . I have enough arrows and broadheads now.
Also , I asked a few years ago if it was legal and the DNR said yes, but has that changed ?
Also would people feel it not ethical ?
I guess I don't understand why they have to be shot in the air, we try not to shoot deer or turkey running do we ?
Thanks for the help
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Post by smshinall on Dec 25, 2011 22:08:55 GMT -5
Perfectly legal to do. Ethical? Whoever says you are not ethical, let them try it and see how hard it is. No different than bowhunting turkey IMO. I wouldn't worry much about blade sharpness either to limit passthroughs so the birds don't fly off.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 25, 2011 22:11:44 GMT -5
Not a problem here with "ethical". Pretty tough to do in the air though. Since this is basically a cull, shoot them any which way you want.......as long as it is legal.
Good luck and let us know how it works out...
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Post by racktracker on Dec 25, 2011 22:24:57 GMT -5
Shoot 'em any which way you can. Put a washer (star or flat) behind your broadhead to prevent pass throughs.
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Post by esshup on Dec 26, 2011 0:49:25 GMT -5
Heck, if they are close enough, why not use one of those broadheads that are designed for turkeys and take their heads off?
I see no problems as long as it's legal to discharge the bow in that area, you have the proper tags and they are in season.
Right now the limit is 2/day, and I'd see if I could get them to line up and whack 2 with one shot.
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Post by smshinall on Dec 26, 2011 10:10:24 GMT -5
At the cost of those guillotine and bullhead broadheads, I would NOT advise using those. Although cool for turkeys, you'd be wasting an awful lot of money trying to nail a bunch of birds with them. Head and neck shots with a small game point would work though. Urban geese most likely will give you multiple shots and they should let you get within bow range. They are used to people walking around them. Some might even try to attack you. Ever consider using a bowfishing setup with some #200 fast flight line? lol that might be "unethical" but would be neat to battle that thing out of the sky.
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Post by Greenedog on Dec 26, 2011 10:42:02 GMT -5
Sounds like fun. Good luck and let us know how it goes!
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Post by duff on Dec 26, 2011 16:13:19 GMT -5
See this question asked 10 times a year. Never do see very many that actually follow through with the actual bow hunt on waterfowl.
My view is never popular but I'd telll them to choke on the green cheetos until they can allow gun hunting. If they can't let you gun hunt, tell them to contact an animal damage control agent and pay.
If you want to bow shoot birds that you can gun hunt, I say good luck. Otherwise there are reasons you can't gun hunt and if it is because there are too many houses then in reality you probably shouldn't be hunting the pond at all.
Good luck, if you do get it done post some pics for us.
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Post by featherduster on Dec 26, 2011 17:46:46 GMT -5
I agree with duff, if these folks want these birds removed then they the people who own the properties around the pond should agree to at least a limited amount of hunting. On the up side if these birds can stay there with no hunting pressure then you have a good refuge from which you can follow them to a place you can hunt them. It seems that just about every year there will be an article about a goose with an arrow sticking out of him that is swimming in city park pond or is on some lake owners property, this type of story does not do us hunters any good.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2011 18:48:55 GMT -5
They do make sub-sonic ammo for situations such as this. You can also get depredation permits for geese, and maybe set up a day a week to shoot them, with approval of all the neighbors that don't like goose crap on their shoes. If you archery hunt them, learn where to hit or shoot only for the head.
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Post by duff on Dec 26, 2011 18:53:33 GMT -5
.....It seems that just about every year there will be an article about a goose with an arrow sticking out of him that is swimming in city park pond or is on some lake owners property, this type of story does not do us hunters any good. I 100% agree. Seen it twice on the indy news channels over the years. A big ol arrow sticking out of it sure is easy to place blame where a winged bird by gun shot lets the viewer's imagination tell it how the bird was wounded. A goose in the middle of a wide open pond is easy to spot especially in a residental area. Where most wounded game is less visible to the general public.
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Post by duff on Dec 26, 2011 19:01:36 GMT -5
.... On the up side if these birds can stay there with no hunting pressure then you have a good refuge from which you can follow them to a place you can hunt them. This is the very best advice, it has worked for me many many times over. They will go to fields to feed. Find the best place to hunt them away from the roost and you can hunt all season long. Dep tags for geese are typically given out during the summer molt prior to the Sept season. The birds really are not even flying at that point. Might as well just get paid to kill the birds, get your ADC license and oil the eggs. Much more effective. I was asked to go kill some geese for a guy one time that had got dep tags. I told him I would be more than happy to go during the normal waterfowl seasons but not interested in shooting birds that can't even fly just because they didn't want them around. They went out and killed like 35 in a weekend...what a hunt!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2011 19:10:12 GMT -5
Golf course owners get them during the winter season because it's better to do them in then with less people arround.
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Post by johnc911 on Dec 26, 2011 23:06:32 GMT -5
Check out indianasportsman. dec just killed some with a bow. Perfectly legal. I would also say if they are sick of the crap then they should let you use guns.
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Post by joeyb on Jan 2, 2012 9:41:39 GMT -5
My view is never popular but I'd telll them to choke on the green cheetos lol. green cheetos. nice.
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Post by featherduster on Aug 12, 2013 6:17:45 GMT -5
Well it's not even waterfowl season and the first pictures of a goose with an arrow sticking out of it have surfaced. I know that for every bird that is photographed with an arrow in them there are hundreds if not thousands of other birds with shot in them however you can't see it and it won't appear in a national photo giving all hunters a bad image. abcnews.go.com/Technology/slideshow/photos-amazing-animals-8537483
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Post by firstwd on Aug 12, 2013 6:40:35 GMT -5
Head shots, people. Head shots.
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Post by duff on Aug 12, 2013 16:52:23 GMT -5
Head shots, people. Head shots. quick google search of goose with arrow turns up several pics with arrows sticking out every angle...still a bad idea in my opinion but again not usually a popular one!
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Post by pigeonflier on Aug 12, 2013 17:16:53 GMT -5
Couple of years ago I was at a buds where I bowhunt occasionally. I have to walk past a apple orchard next to their pond to get back to the woods,, and of course you can guess what was going on. No way in heck can I resist temptation,, and they were all just standing there looking at me as I was walking past at about 30 yards. 2 arrows later and I was limited out. I could have done that all day,, cause all the 2 did was run over about ten steps and fall down asleep. The rest of the flock could have cared less since there was no boom!!! Temptation gets the better of me every time!!!
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Post by pigeonflier on Aug 12, 2013 17:18:47 GMT -5
Green Cheetos are cool!!!!!
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