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Post by HighCotton on Sept 3, 2011 8:49:30 GMT -5
Here's the deal. I can't decide whether to use the Rage broadheads or my ole standby Muzzys. All I've ever used is Muzzy 3 blade, 100gr. with the exception of one deer. I shot a doe in 2007 using a 2 blade Rage and was majorly impressed with the gaping hole and quick kill>>> but I feel some loyalty to the Muzzys as they've never let me down. So here's the deal - whitetail1 and his sons aren't being any help in my decision - and I need to decide soon - so I'm gonna roll with the results of this poll!
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Post by BOBinIN on Sept 3, 2011 9:17:57 GMT -5
Every deer i've ever shot with a Muzzy was a quick kill, it has never let me down either. Most shots that I've had the deer didn't even know they were hit until they staggered and dropped over. Good luck with your decision, but I know what I'd use. BOB
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Post by inrecordbookbuck on Sept 3, 2011 10:15:25 GMT -5
I have used both and I still use Muzzy's..... I have hit a 220lb buck at 30yds in the shoulder and it blow completely threw and out the other shoulder..... I would like to see a rage head, do that......Everybody shoots a bad shot on occassion and i like to know my head will do the damage needed, when i screw up!!!!! nobody shoots a 10 ring, everytime....
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Post by gobblerstopper on Sept 3, 2011 10:23:07 GMT -5
Aside from the aggressive marketing campaign and the exaggerated advertising budget that only make products more expensive and not more productive, I have a hard time believing that there is any broadhead on the market right now that has even the smallest chance of failure. I'd like to think that with the Internet forums and many forms of communication subpar products would not last on the market and would be doomed by hunters.
I shooting Rade 2-blades for the first time this fall. My traditional 3-blade head has never failed me, but I like what I see from the Rage.
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Post by HuntMeister on Sept 3, 2011 11:04:33 GMT -5
I'm a fan of keeping it simple, I would choose the Muzzy.
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Post by duff on Sept 3, 2011 11:39:08 GMT -5
I'm a fan of keeping it simple, I would choose the Muzzy. Me too! No broadhead will make up for poor shooting. If the old standbys are still producing dead deer why change? I personally don't like the idea of moving parts on the broadhead. That is why I do not use them. I know alot of people like them and maybe one day down the road I will give them a shot but until then I will stick with the old stand by.
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Post by steiny on Sept 3, 2011 12:17:54 GMT -5
Although rage broadheads are the 'rage' with everybody now, mostly due to aggressive advertising (much like TC firearms), I think they stink.
Tried Rage heads for about half a season. They kept opening in the quiver and when knocked in the tree. Figured if the opened then when they were not supposed to, they might open mid flight and throw off a shot, or not open correctly on impact.
I'll keep it simple with Muzzy's too.
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Post by boonechaser on Sept 3, 2011 12:23:39 GMT -5
I've shot both and prefer the 2 blade RAGE. (Guess it does'nt matter what you shot if you hit them in the lung's they are going down quickly.) Rage 2 blades just fly better with very little difference from my field point's so that's my main reason for shooting them, plus they leave a big hole for easy blood trailing. I've killed my last 2 buck's using the same Rage broadhead. Just a little sharpening and it's ready to go this year.
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Post by 76chevy on Sept 3, 2011 12:26:00 GMT -5
how about choice C ;D
SLICK TRICK..muzzys are great also ;D ;D
Here's the deal, rages are great heads UNTIL you make a less than perfect hit, then you wish you had a simple fixed head.
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Post by ridgerunner on Sept 3, 2011 12:38:55 GMT -5
If you hit the mark with the arrow a " HUGE WOUND CHANNEL" isn't necessary...with a Muzzy or any other fixed blade if you put it in the boiler room , dead deer within 50-75 yards....no need for massive bloodtrails if you watch them fall over...besides I've shot many deer with Muzzy and G5 montec broadheads and those blood trails were more than adequate blood trails to follow...Rage is another marketing ploy to attract hunters and fool them into thinking more blood is better, when a well placed arrow with a marginal head, well sharpened, will be more than sufficient to put a Big Buck or any other deer down..Conversely I have shot deer with mechanical heads where I had an excellent shot, no exit , arrow stayed in deer and found the deer after 45 minutes to hours later after tracking with a little more than a pin drop of blood every 20 yards...on a well placed arrow...and find the deer 70 yards away doublelunged with no exit, but blood trail was almost non-existent...I'll stick with fixed blades.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2011 16:40:16 GMT -5
i,m with steiny can,t stand them opening up all the time but have to disagree with ridgerunner you can,t ever have enough blood when bloodtrailing. i,v had to walk off the side of the trail after hitting one with a rage to keep from getting blood all over my shoes and pants i did,nt vote because i believe there is better than rage but have never shot a muzzy
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Post by sleepergsx on Sept 3, 2011 17:11:25 GMT -5
i had a converstaion with noted outdoor writer Bill Winke not long ago about rage broadheads. I think he has the best reply of all. he said "There are a lot of tradeoffs; if you can tell me where you are going to hit the deer, I can easily tell you which head is best. The Rage heads are big - that can be good or bad depending on where you hit the deer. I have used Grim Reapers too and I always felt like the blades opened a bit hard, but they definitely stay closed in flight. I killed some deer with them. The longer ferrule (made of aluminum) also worried me. I have had other long ferrule mechanical heads break when impacting frozen ground. That means they will also break when impacting shoulder (at least potentially). Not saying I have seen that with rage, but I have seen it with similar designs. So I tend to find something that is conservative. I like the Steelheads because they stay closed, open fairly easy and are built of steel so the ferrule won't bend or snap on a shoulder hit. They aren't real big so they won't cause as much damage as a GR or Rage on soft-tissue hits (lungs, liver, paunch) but they do penetrate better when they hit other tissue (bone, cartlage, muscle)." So basically, if you're gonna hit a 12 ring....it doesnt really matter....if you hit one back...rage would be better....if you hit one forward....muzzy would be better.
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Post by WhoDey78 on Sept 4, 2011 8:45:52 GMT -5
I agree with most, if it's not broken, don't fix it. I personally switched to Rage in 2007 because I was tired of my muzzy's flying differently than my field points. I had tremendous success with muzzy broadheads, but I just tired of dialing in my bow, then dialing in again for broadheads. Seemed counterproductive to me.
That being said, I have had great success with Rage also. I've never had one fail to open on impact and although I have experienced them opening in the quiver occasionally, I never found it effect it's ability to operate when needed. Actually, I found that this depends on the quiver one uses also.
As far as penetration goes, I've shot numerous deer through the shoulder with ease. I've never had one pass through both shoulders, but going through one and hitting the heart hasn't been a problem.
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Post by bville on Sept 4, 2011 10:55:05 GMT -5
Most archery places will tell you that for an expandable to work you need a lot of poundage and a very fast bow. Last year i hunting Brown Co Park(gun hunt) i had a very nice 12pt walk right under my stand i could see he was bleeding from low on the shoulder. I shot and killed this deer( my biggest to date). After a very short track job i further examed this deer and pulled out a rage broad head. This deer had been shot prob 2 days before and was still goin strong i think if the person who shot this was using an Muzzy he or she would have killed this deer.
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Post by countrystyle56 on Sept 4, 2011 12:15:37 GMT -5
If something has worked for so long, why would you want to change it? Muzzys work, plain and simple!!!
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Sept 4, 2011 17:55:19 GMT -5
The local taxidemist and the deer processor both have said they find more mechanical broadheads broke off or lodged in many deer. FYI.
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Post by parkerbow on Sept 4, 2011 19:43:29 GMT -5
Truthfully I do not like them. I do not like the moving blades and I never did like any broadhead that the blades are held by a small rubber O ring. How chincy is that? I have used them and they are good when you have a deer perfectly broadside. Mine too would always open up in my quiver. I just got to worried about them. If you watch TV shows hardly ever do they get a full pass thru with the rage. My fixed blade magnus stingers slice through deer like hot butter. I say stick with the fixed and then you won't have to worry.
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Post by pwoller on Sept 4, 2011 21:31:13 GMT -5
I'm color blind and like the fact that all the deer I shot with Rage BH's bleed like crazy and die within 20 yards. So far so good for me.
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Post by HighCotton on Sept 5, 2011 8:35:48 GMT -5
This is some good info here - some pointers that I'd not really thought of before. Y'all got my wheels of thought turning here.
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Post by keho on Sept 5, 2011 14:57:20 GMT -5
Keep it simple & If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Stick with your Muzzy's. Spend the extra $40 on something else.
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