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Post by ff1126 on May 24, 2007 12:07:14 GMT -5
I hate to see the Red Cross thrown into this subject. I'm a firefighter, and I have seen first hand the good that the Red Cross does. In fact, they are the only organization that ever shows up. They are out in are community day or night doing good, and helping people. If the NWTF could just do 1/4 the good the Red Cross does ever year. They would not have to call people up every year and "Beg" them to come to there banquets. I believe a good product will sell its self.
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Post by parrothead on May 24, 2007 12:38:43 GMT -5
I believe they do some good. But here is another example. My buddy lived in Columbus close to the river and it flooded bad, got his house. They gave him a bucket and a sponge. He asked if they could put him up in a hotel for one night and they said no. Luckily he had money for a hotel. His neighbors had to sleep in their cars.
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Post by Woody Williams on May 24, 2007 12:53:38 GMT -5
I think we are getting off topic by including the Red Cross in this..
I'll say one thing and then let's try and steer it back to topic.
I have heard the "coffeee and doughnuts" thing before, but have never, ever witnessed anything of a sort. Urban Legend? Dunno..
I do know that the Red Cross was very, very helpful during the recovery from the November 6, 2005 Newburgh tornado - as was a LOT of other organizations.
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Post by dec on May 24, 2007 13:21:26 GMT -5
Look guys. It is like this. I don't care if it is NWTF, DU, Whitetails, Pheasants, or name your outdoor group. Every group is going to have their bad chapters and their good chapters. Their bad banquets and their good banquets. You have to remember all the chapter stuff is handled by VOLUNTEERS. We all know that some people have what it takes and others don't. It is seldom that you get a solid group of volunteers to come together for any purpose. Our DU committee has something like 30 volunteers. Yet 5 to 6 do 95% of all the planning, coordinating, and the work. This small group of us have to work our tails off to put on a good show at the banquet, put on youth programs, put on goose round ups, promote the chapter, raise the money, spend the money, and make all the decisions. It is tough. It is not DU or NWTF's fault there are bad chapters. It is the the fault of the chapter, not the headquarters. Not saying the headquarters are perfect, they are far from it. But you can't kill the body just because a finger is dead.
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Post by Woody Williams on May 24, 2007 13:47:03 GMT -5
Bingo DEC.
I've found if you can get 10% or more volunteers to actually work you're doing good.
10% of club members do 100% of the work,..
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Post by dec on May 24, 2007 13:53:33 GMT -5
Honestly guys, the BEST thing you can do is simply to get involved. Join a committee. Don't just be the guy that sits on his hands either, step up and take charge of a task. You'd be surprised at what they will let you do if you volunteer. The dead beats that are bringing down your chapter will simply step aside ... I GUARANTEE THEY WILL. Team up with 2 or 3 guys that want to work and turn things around. You'll be surprised how easy it is to shove the deadbeats out of the way and get things clicking in the right direction. In ONE year, my committee turned a dwindling DU chapter into an amazing banquet turnout that NETTED over $30,000 for ducks. Get involved. It is rewarding beyond belief.
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Post by mullis56 on May 24, 2007 15:25:04 GMT -5
I agree I like getting involved and I encourage all to do that, and it will help!
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Post by davepowers on May 24, 2007 20:43:35 GMT -5
I have been seeing more of the same stories lately. I believe there are some good people in the NWTF but I also think there are some living off of others and taking advantage of good people. They really should ask themselves "What have I done lately" because what you did last year or 10 years ago doesn't do much for today.
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Post by birddog on May 25, 2007 7:20:46 GMT -5
My question is,what has the DU,QU or the NWTF done in my area of S.E.INDIANA and I belong to all three....DU at least you can see where they spend the money as in the lands they buy,but QU and NWTF??
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Post by nsporleder on May 25, 2007 9:45:28 GMT -5
I want to thank everyone for their input on this subject.I thought long and hard on this.Jump in or walk away.All the help was a leg up in this proses. The Leatherwood Long beards will soon be up and running.I hope we can get a strong chapter up on its feet.I'm lucky to have several friends in the turkey hunting world that I know will help get us started off on a good foot. I proud to say Jemorris says he will come on board.I know he will be one that will do whatever he can to help.We seem to run pretty close on what we would like to head toward as our goals.He was one that got gun smoked by the first chapter 15 years back but agreed to help when asked.
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Post by dwhunting on May 25, 2007 10:43:19 GMT -5
Mullis, Did you say 5.00 bag of corn? Where did you find this?
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