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Post by cambygsp on Jun 6, 2011 15:31:08 GMT -5
With all this talk about protecting bucks from harvest, maybe it's time the state reduce the amount of bucks harvested each year by limiting the amount of buck tags issued each year.
Of course lifelime license holders would get a buck tag each year because they have already purchased them and have a contract with the state to that effect.
I beleive that this was once the way Illionis did their buck tags.....the application process!
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Post by jjas on Jun 6, 2011 18:16:07 GMT -5
With a 50/50 kill ratio and a obr I think the state is doing fine protecting the bucks.
If I were to change anything else, it would be to make the gun tags either sex. As I've stated for years, the gun tags being buck only does more to doom young bucks to death than anything else.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jun 6, 2011 18:54:00 GMT -5
With a 50/50 kill ratio and a obr I think the state is doing fine protecting the bucks. If I were to change anything else, it would be to make the gun tags either sex. As I've stated for years, the gun tags being buck only does more to doom young bucks to death than anything else. AGREED...110%...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2011 18:59:35 GMT -5
Copy Ky.price wise and structure.
Limiting tag sales will not create anything but problems. If guys aren't happy with the bucks their are seeing, they should hunt more and shoot less.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jun 6, 2011 19:11:17 GMT -5
................... If guys aren't happy with the bucks their are seeing, they should hunt more and shoot less. Nail head meet hammer.....
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Post by huntinfool on Jun 6, 2011 19:56:17 GMT -5
................... If guys aren't happy with the bucks their are seeing, they should hunt more and shoot less. Nail head meet hammer.....
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Post by cambygsp on Jun 6, 2011 21:38:50 GMT -5
Copy Ky.price wise and structure. Limiting tag sales will not create anything but problems. If guys aren't happy with the bucks their are seeing, they should hunt more and shoot less. Timex, I agree that Indiana does not NEED to limit buck tag sales, we don't NEED antler restrictions, Need to reduce gun hunting days OR Need to adjust the gun deer season dates either. I really don't think we NEEDED the OBR either, but I have grown to accept it. Actually, the OBR would be allot more effective if folks had more opportunity......more time to SELECT the buck they want to shoot. This can be accomplished by allowing folks more choices in hunting weapons. I really just wanted to see how many folks are serious about making sacrifices......you know.....to grow bigger antlers.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Jun 7, 2011 7:06:09 GMT -5
Nope!
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Post by Sasquatch on Jun 7, 2011 7:40:04 GMT -5
NO! Has the whole world lost it's mind? OBR, Point restrictions/minimum spreads, and finally a BUCK LOTTERY! All of these schemes are a result of too many folks watching hunting videos showing huge bucks coming down the trail every five minutes. IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE THAT WAY. If you equate success with the size of deer you take then all is lost anyway.
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Post by trapperdave on Jun 7, 2011 7:53:05 GMT -5
my question is, given your scenario, why would lifetime holders automatically get one? Theres no guarantee for them to get a tag...just to not have to pay for it. Like everyone else, NO to the question. BUT, if it did happen they would be subject to random drawing like the rest of us.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2011 8:19:25 GMT -5
I know THIS will never happen, because it would cause a small revolt. I'm sure that a lot of LTL holders wouldn't mind, but the ones that would end up loosing are the ones that we need to keep the sport going....the new and younger hunters that did get get on the wagon when LTL were sold. The end result would be a lot of those that do not draw a buck tag won't hunt or buy any license. The DNR would soon end up in a hole too big to dig out of. The Legislature would be forced to take over management of the deer herd and other programs that no longer can be financed because of the lost revenue.
Every action has other actions that are associated with it. This one is no exception. All of them are negaqtive, except a few guys might get a slightly bigger buck, maybe. Still no way to legislate that everyone kills a gaint.
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Post by schoolmaster on Jun 7, 2011 8:33:46 GMT -5
So if a hunter is really serious about wanting to shoot a certain size buck then the solution is simple. Have an antlered buck season season every three years. Have a minimum of 4 points on one side, make the hunter choose between either firearm or archery, shorten the seasons, keep the one buck rule, make button bucks protected, and kill all the does possible during the non-buck seasons. There will be a few trophy hunters killing big bucks and a bunch of hunters that won't buy a license. Is this what we really want?
You hit the nail on the head..
Some folks just can't understand what the meaning and result of unnecessary restrictsons would be.
For every new restriction added we will lose hunters..
Hunters that we can ill afford to lose...
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Post by boonechaser on Jun 7, 2011 8:42:12 GMT -5
How about just managing your own properties to satisfy your goal's. You want meat, Shoot whatever come's by. You want a "trophy buck" then let the youngster's walk and wait on a big boy. ( Which my friend's does'nt always happen.) Gotta be prepared to eat tag soup if a true trophy is what your after.
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Post by trapperdave on Jun 7, 2011 9:27:45 GMT -5
ding ding ding, we have a winner If a hunter is really serious about shootin a certain size buck then thae answer is SIMPLE. Dont shoot anything smaller. Its not supposed to be easy or common. Thats what makes em special, to some
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Post by jjas on Jun 7, 2011 9:49:49 GMT -5
ding ding ding, we have a winner If a hunter is really serious about shootin a certain size buck then thae answer is SIMPLE. Dont shoot anything smaller. Its not supposed to be easy or common. Thats what makes em special, to some Now TD, you know that today's hunter wants instant gratification. They watch the shows, they buy the latest, greatest bow, camo, binos, laser rangefinder, cameras and calls so there should be a booner behind every tree (that should stand broadside @ 20 yards) for them to kill every year. That's how they do it on TV........
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Post by trapperdave on Jun 7, 2011 10:31:20 GMT -5
then todays hunter needs to cough up some cash and hunt behind a high fence, where there IS a booner behind every tree. That's how they do it on TV
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Post by speckle on Jun 7, 2011 12:53:25 GMT -5
I watched and passed on multiple 140s last yr but thats just me
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Post by whiteoak on Jun 7, 2011 15:09:54 GMT -5
I watched and passed on multiple 140s last yr but thats just me Well there you go. They will be 150's this year. A proven way to increase antler size. It's pretty simple folks. Hunters that are truly wanting a trophy class buck will not shoot a small one. If a hunter just wants meat, yes I would prefer for them to shoot a doe, but that's not my call. If he takes a basket rack 6 pointer I'll shake his had and congratulate him just the same. I will never tell another hunter what to shoot. I expect the same in return.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2011 19:01:42 GMT -5
I see lots of guys that want 150's or better, but will kill 125's. It's a sign that they haven't matured fully in the natural progression. Peer pressure just won't allow them to come up empty, so they lower their standards, never knowing if the 150 was just behind the next tree and heading their way.
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Post by freedomhunter on Jun 8, 2011 7:03:30 GMT -5
I see lots of guys that want 150's or better, but will kill 125's. It's a sign that they haven't matured fully in the natural progression. Peer pressure just won't allow them to come up empty, so they lower their standards, never knowing if the 150 was just behind the next tree and heading their way. yeah, that sense of urgency is what gets most guys that set a mark for themselves at the beginning of season, you have to be willing to go a year or years without shooting a buck in IN if ya want a biggin (unless your are tremendously advantaged with time and ground)
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