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Post by HighCotton on Apr 25, 2011 16:47:25 GMT -5
I need some help and/or advice regarding the use of a "stock" Mossberg 670 turkey choke (Mossberg 500A-12 ga.) with Hevi-13. I fired a practice shot the other day at 50 yds and the pattern was awesome ~98 pellets in 10". I thought this was discussed here on H-I some time last year but I can't find the thread. If anyone finds it please post for my info. Here is my dilemna. The choke says "lead only" so I called Mossberg and they said, "Absolutely no way should I shoot the Hevi-13 through the Mossberg choke." I told them I already did and the choke and gun appear to be fine. I called Environ-Metal (maker of Hevi-13) and they echoed Mossberg's sentiment - "No Way!". They both told me I need a turkey choke for "steel". So I asked both of them, Why does Gobbler Stopper, Undertaker, and Jelly Head (to name a few) show pictures of the Hevi Shot logo and then they all say "not approved for steel shot"  Cue the music and commence ta dancin'!!! I could not get a bona fide answer!!! For now, I'll find it kinda tough to fork over $50+ for a tube (if I can find one) when the one I have seems to work just fine. Any help here?? Anybody use a "stock" turkey choke like this?? What is the worst that can happen?? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2011 17:43:58 GMT -5
What they are saying is that unless your using the choke made for Hevi, that they are not responsible IF your gun explodes in your face and maims or kills you. By the same token, some gun manufacturors do not recommend use of Hevi in their guns. Chances are that being that you already shot it once without incident, that it will work alright? but it is a chance that you could have trouble with repeated firings.
FWIW, I use Hevi in my Benellis exclusively and do not use the Hevi-shot choke tube.
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Post by gobblerstopper on Apr 25, 2011 17:45:55 GMT -5
The more important question is why are the makers of the "gobbler stopper" using my name?
Seriously though, I've shot hevi through the mossberg tube along with the kick's, undertaker, jelly head, invector plus and the Rhine tube with no noticable effects. I guess the worst that could happen is that it splits your barrel or blows your tube out. I'm sure someone can find where it supposedly happened on the net, but I've never heard it.
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Post by HighCotton on Apr 26, 2011 16:04:15 GMT -5
Thanks for your answers here guys. For anyone wondering about this hevi-shot and choke issue, I found a good little site that confirms my thoughts. www.jesseshunting.com/articles/hunting/category14/11.htmlObviously y'all will have to make your own decision, but I'm sticking with my Mossberg turkey choke. We'll see what happens! |
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Post by tickman1961 on Apr 27, 2011 8:34:54 GMT -5
I would say it is manufacturers covering their tails is why they prohibit the use of one over the other.
Thanks for the link, excellent information.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2011 14:06:49 GMT -5
i have the indian creek choke tube designed for hevi shot for an 870 but shoot the heavy shot through a primos 655 tight choke in a benelli because it shoots 10 times better. killed a bird at 56 yards dead as nails with a 3 inch magnum blend this year on opening day. the primos choke patterns better at 550 yards than the indian creek does at 40, go figure.
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Post by hornharvester on May 6, 2011 7:37:54 GMT -5
550 yards! WOW thats some shotgun you got!!! LOL I'm guessing you meant 50 or 55 yards. h.h.
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Post by sloppysnood on May 7, 2011 21:00:34 GMT -5
i have the indian creek choke tube designed for hevi shot for an 870 but shoot the heavy shot through a primos 655 tight choke in a benelli because it shoots 10 times better. killed a bird at 56 yards dead as nails with a 3 inch magnum blend this year on opening day. the primos choke patterns better at 550 yards than the indian creek does at 40, go figure. Could you please post some pictures of the actual targets? Thanks. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2011 8:06:15 GMT -5
dont have them any more. but here is what i had. with the indian creek and the 870 i had 78 pellets in a turkeys head and neck at 40 yards with a 2 ounce magnum blend 3 inch shell. with the primos choke and a super black eagle i had 91 pellets in a turkeys head and neck at 50 yards with the same load. i would be glad to shoot some more targets and post pictures but at 6 bucks a shot it get expensive when there isnt a bird flopping at the other end of the gun.
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Post by HighCotton on May 8, 2011 10:27:17 GMT -5
FWIW, here is the target I shot before Turkey open with my Mossberg (setup listed above) which prompted my question here:  I know it is not exact. I guess I'm a cheapy when it comes to targets. For years, I've simply grabbed a pad of sketch paper at Wally World and keep it in my vehicle year round use. You can see that the shot pattern is pretty good. I would say the kill shots, or number of pellets to the "vital area" is approx. 8-10 pellets. However, the number of pellets in a 10" plate was 98 give or take a few. I do know now that the setup worked great in dropping a fine gobbler at 63 yards on Friday! Hope this helps. |
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Post by Woody Williams on May 8, 2011 20:16:34 GMT -5
This is what I am working with.. Remington 870 with a Rhino .665 choke shooting Nitro 4X5X7s topped with a Simmons 2X ProDiamond scope.  This is the pattern it makes at 35 yards..I'm sure a lot of that will hold for 50+ yards. Killed a KY bird at 55 yards last year with it.  |
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