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Mar 22, 2011 8:15:02 GMT -5
Post by bigballer on Mar 22, 2011 8:15:02 GMT -5
Okay not sure if this is an enhancement question but a question about trees.. I know some of you know a lot about trees so thought i would ask here. We have a cabin on the river and that is the reason for this question. We have a large area in front of our cabin that has only two large Maple trees right on the bank of the river. The river finally took one of them last year. So now we are down to one tree right in front of our cabin. So my question is this. what kind of trees should I plant on the edge (about 10 feet away) of the river to sort of have something there to keep the river from eating away and erroding the earth. Figuered I need something that is sort of flood resistant. Because it does flood down there about two times a year for 10-15 days. And would want something that grows sort of fast and has a really branch root system. Any info or help would be appreciated. Thanks.. BB
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Mar 22, 2011 9:20:31 GMT -5
Post by drs on Mar 22, 2011 9:20:31 GMT -5
Black Willow trees.
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Mar 22, 2011 10:34:41 GMT -5
Post by duff on Mar 22, 2011 10:34:41 GMT -5
Look at the rest of the trees along the bank. silver maples, sycamore, cotton wood are typical river bank trees
Good luck
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Mar 22, 2011 11:39:13 GMT -5
Post by bigballer on Mar 22, 2011 11:39:13 GMT -5
well what we have down there right now are the silver mapples and down the river is cotton wood. A friend of mine a forester told me black willow but I didn't know how tall they would get and if they would look good. Cause there is a guy down there that if they don't look good he will mow them down... LOL.. I planted silver maples about three years ago and he mowed them down. But now he doesn't do the mowing down there my dad does so hopefully they can get their start and get some growth to them before the bank errodes to much. Thanks guy's BB
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Mar 22, 2011 13:51:49 GMT -5
Post by drs on Mar 22, 2011 13:51:49 GMT -5
Black Willows grow to 30 feet, and do better in group plantings.
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Mar 22, 2011 21:01:45 GMT -5
Post by dadfsr on Mar 22, 2011 21:01:45 GMT -5
You know what to plant by just looking around-sycamores, silver maple, cottonwood, river birch, black gum, willow, swamp white oak, etc. Just googling "wet site tree species" should give you a whole list of possible trees-just remember you will probably want trees that will survive in at least USDA zone 6 but zone 5 would probably be better since those trees will be a little more cold hardy.
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Mar 23, 2011 5:23:38 GMT -5
Post by drs on Mar 23, 2011 5:23:38 GMT -5
You might also consider Bald Cypress trees as they are fast growing & look great.
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Mar 23, 2011 6:40:50 GMT -5
Post by DEERTRACKS on Mar 23, 2011 6:40:50 GMT -5
You might also consider Bald Cypress trees as they are fast growing & look great. Excellent choice! Swamp Oak is also an option.
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Mar 23, 2011 7:09:11 GMT -5
Post by turkeyscout on Mar 23, 2011 7:09:11 GMT -5
the best root system for the bank erosion is the Sycamore trees...... .........turkey scout
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Mar 23, 2011 8:06:27 GMT -5
Post by drs on Mar 23, 2011 8:06:27 GMT -5
Sycamore trees are slow growing and messy.
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Mar 23, 2011 8:28:19 GMT -5
Post by dadfsr on Mar 23, 2011 8:28:19 GMT -5
Sycamore trees are slow growing and messy. I wouldn't say that sycamores are slow growing, maybe not as fast as a silver maple or cottonwood but certainly faster than an oak. As far as messy-I'd rather have sycamore seedballs than cottonwood fluff, silver maple helicopters or sweetgum balls ....plus swamp oak acorns are not small either. AND yes bald cypress would also make a good wet site tree-however if your wanting shade they may not satisfy that need but for a summertime screen or wind break they would do well. You just have to remember that they are a deciduous evergreen and will be bare during the winter. I would stay away from ash trees, even though the green ash is listed for wet sites, because of the EAB (and that's not earn a buck either ;D )
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Mar 23, 2011 9:34:42 GMT -5
Post by drs on Mar 23, 2011 9:34:42 GMT -5
In my opinion I can't see someone trying to grow anything along a river bank.
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Mar 23, 2011 10:28:46 GMT -5
Post by duff on Mar 23, 2011 10:28:46 GMT -5
River banks are full of all types of big trees. I would just find a sapling or ten someplace and transplant it/them. No way I'd buy any of these trees listed. Get a good shovel and some burlap or blanket and dig a rootball big enough to keep dirt on the roots but small enough to man handle and move a few trees to the desired location. slide the blanket around the ball so when you are moving it the dirt doesnt fall off.
If they are growing there already chances are you will have success. I've transplanted trees from 6" to 6' tall. The big one were almost too much for me to move around but they all survived. Plenty of water after the transplant.
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Mar 23, 2011 10:45:17 GMT -5
Post by drs on Mar 23, 2011 10:45:17 GMT -5
River banks are full of all types of big trees. I would just find a sapling or ten someplace and transplant it/them. No way I'd buy any of these trees listed. Get a good shovel and some burlap or blanket and dig a rootball big enough to keep dirt on the roots but small enough to man handle and move a few trees to the desired location. slide the blanket around the ball so when you are moving it the dirt doesnt fall off. If they are growing there already chances are you will have success. I've transplanted trees from 6" to 6' tall. The big one were almost too much for me to move around but they all survived. Plenty of water after the transplant. Excellent pratical idea!
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Mar 23, 2011 11:07:13 GMT -5
Post by dadfsr on Mar 23, 2011 11:07:13 GMT -5
Actually I wouldn't even worry about the dirt falling off the root system. If getting a larger root system means loosing some dirt that's not a bad trade off. Roots can easily take not having dirt on them for a few hours if you can keep them from drying out-a covering of wet burlap does wonders until the tree can be replanted.
There's even been some research done( by Dr Bonnie Appleton I believe)that advocates removing all the soil from any balled and burlapped (B&B) tree so that girdling roots can be indentified and removed, and also to help in finding the root flare so that the tree can be planted at the proper depth.
A majority of the B&B trees that we've planted on the PU campus need to have sometimes half or more of the soil ball removed to get down to the root flare that has been buried during tree nursery tillage operations and planting schemes....finding the root flare invaribly exposes much of the root system which we prune as necessary and then cover with the planting soil.
Most trees, when they are started at the tree nursery, are also shipped in bare root (saves a bunch on shipping) and have no problems getting roots re-established when planted.
So I'd rather see a couple of 2'-4' bare roots kept with a small tree then see a smaller root system because you tried to keep the soil around it-just make sure you dig the planting hole wide enough to put those roots back in the ground without trying to circle or J-hook them in the hole or you've just created a girdling root that will eventually weaken, damage or kill the tree.
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Mar 24, 2011 4:34:56 GMT -5
Post by duff on Mar 24, 2011 4:34:56 GMT -5
Good info. I knew you tree huggers would be able to help. This info will also save your back!
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Mar 24, 2011 7:56:15 GMT -5
Post by dadfsr on Mar 24, 2011 7:56:15 GMT -5
Good info. I knew you tree huggers would be able to help. This info will also save your back! Watch how you use that term "tree hugger" ...but yes I have hugged a few trees ;D ;D
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Mar 25, 2011 5:15:58 GMT -5
Post by duff on Mar 25, 2011 5:15:58 GMT -5
Good info. I knew you tree huggers would be able to help. This info will also save your back! Watch how you use that term "tree hugger" ...but yes I have hugged a few trees ;D ;D Only with the BEST intentions
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Mar 25, 2011 6:07:15 GMT -5
Post by bigballer on Mar 25, 2011 6:07:15 GMT -5
You guy's are funny... Thanks for the help.. I have a perfect place to look for these trees.. I'll probalby go with the silver maples since that's what's already in the area. There are some cotton wood trees as well but don't care for them as much.. I'll probably take this on in the next few weeks.. Thanks BB
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