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Post by 10point on Jan 5, 2011 13:05:21 GMT -5
I know must of you probably don't care because you don't hunt urban zones but if you did would you be against this proposal? I am against it because I will gladly shoot does if given the chance and feel I should have to pass a buck. This year I did not have a shot on a doe until about 1 month into the season and it was a questionable shot with another deer standing behind it so I didn't shoot. With EAB I might be encouraged to take less likely shots. Also, I might be forced to shoot fawns. I saw fawns with spots on them this year in September. I ended up taking a small buck in the urban zone before I ever got a shot at a doe. I am afraid the opposition to this rule isn't going to be much because it doesn't effect many.
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Post by Decatur on Jan 5, 2011 13:11:42 GMT -5
The whole purpose of the UDZ is to thin the herd in that zone. I don't see a problem with it. Too many guys hunt it until they get their extra buck then stop hunting until season opens. It's a special hunt. It starts earlier, and you can still kill an extra buck. I guess everything has it's price.
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Post by js2397 on Jan 5, 2011 13:37:31 GMT -5
You only have to shoot a doe first if you buy the urban tag. If you use your regular archery tag you do not have to shoot a doe.
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Post by Decatur on Jan 5, 2011 13:43:03 GMT -5
But to shoot an extra UDZ buck you have to shoot a doe. From Oct. 1 on, carry both licenses then it will be non-issue.
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Post by 10point on Jan 5, 2011 14:40:35 GMT -5
The whole purpose of the UDZ is to thin the herd in that zone. The whole purpose of deer hunting is to basically thin the herd. If I can't shoot what is front of me I can't thin the herd. Although we are urban I don't think it really needs thinned out in most places. I don't think we have more deer than most areas just more traffic which results in more accidents which results in higher limits. |
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Post by firstwd on Jan 5, 2011 18:07:49 GMT -5
If urban zone hunting was restricted to urban licenses only and the antlered deer fell under the OBR, then I could see everybody fighting against the urban EAB. Personally, being a park reduction hunter myself, I don't see the logic in having an area with liberal bag limits to encourage reduction and then impose a rule that restricts that reduction. I agree, not a good idea unless the EAB is for a second Urban Zone antlered deer.  |
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Post by js2397 on Jan 5, 2011 18:38:05 GMT -5
The EAB is for the urban buck. You can still fill your regular tags during the regular season in the urban zone. If you buy an urban tag and fill it with an antlerless deer then you can purchase an additional urban tag which could be used to kill your second buck. Looks like you will have to buy both an urban and regular deer license.
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Post by shooterbuck on Jan 5, 2011 18:41:08 GMT -5
The whole purpose of the UDZ is to thin the herd in that zone. I don't see a problem with it. Too many guys hunt it until they get their extra buck then stop hunting until season opens. It's a special hunt. It starts earlier, and you can still kill an extra buck. I guess everything has it's price. What he said x 2 |
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Post by tenring on Jan 5, 2011 18:49:09 GMT -5
Let's just all calm down and see what, if any, changes are in store for fee increases.
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Post by esshup on Jan 5, 2011 19:29:56 GMT -5
My suggestion to the DNR was to do like Wi. If you don't get a chance to shoot a buck in an EAB area, and shoot a doe, the doe counts for the following year.
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Post by lugnutz on Jan 5, 2011 23:46:24 GMT -5
The whole purpose of the UDZ is to thin the herd in that zone. I don't see a problem with it. Too many guys hunt it until they get their extra buck then stop hunting until season opens. It's a special hunt. It starts earlier, and you can still kill an extra buck. I guess everything has it's price. Completely agree, want more does killed, lower the friggin price for them. |
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Post by huxbux on Jan 6, 2011 20:47:46 GMT -5
Let's just all calm down and see what, if any, changes are in store for fee increases. I'm already calm. |
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Post by mbogo on Jan 8, 2011 12:47:22 GMT -5
I would support EAB for a second UDZ buck or a second buck in the rest of the state, but it makes a lot less sense for the first UDZ buck.
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Post by deerman on Jan 8, 2011 17:10:23 GMT -5
I can see this proposal going through. I believe there is some resentment that exist towards urban hunters from people that don't have a place to hunt in an urban zone. They don't like the fact that some individuals hAve the chance to kill an extra buck and they don't. At least that's been my experience down here in Vanderburgh county. The buck harvest goes up every year in vanderburgh county, and it's not due to more deer, more hunters or more land being opened to be hunted. I believe it's because alot of bucks are being killed in the counties surrounding this one and being illeagally tagged as a urban kill. There no way to stop if from happening though..people are going to find ways cheat no matter what you do.
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Post by danf on Jan 8, 2011 17:35:27 GMT -5
I guess this question isn't exactly relevant to the discussion at hand, but did the state actually come out with an "urban zone" license? Haven't kept up on everything like I used to.....
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Post by deerman on Jan 8, 2011 17:41:46 GMT -5
Yes, they're around some of the larger cities in the state. In Evansville's case, it's all of Vanderburgh county.
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Post by deerman on Jan 8, 2011 17:51:53 GMT -5
Danf,
I read your question wrong. No specific tag for the Urban Zone, but prior to this year you needed to buy the Extra Archery tag if you wanted to hunt Urban Zone from September 15- October 1. Now I believe all the archery tags are valid starting on setember 15.
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Post by whitetail1 on Jan 8, 2011 18:09:20 GMT -5
I know must of you probably don't care because you don't hunt urban zones but if you did would you be against this proposal? I am against it because I will gladly shoot does if given the chance and feel I should have to pass a buck. This year I did not have a shot on a doe until about 1 month into the season and it was a questionable shot with another deer standing behind it so I didn't shoot. With EAB I might be encouraged to take less likely shots. Also, I might be forced to shoot fawns. I saw fawns with spots on them this year in September. I ended up taking a small buck in the urban zone before I ever got a shot at a doe. I am afraid the opposition to this rule isn't going to be much because it doesn't effect many. Why would anything encourage you to take "less likely shots"? Regardless of the rules and whether or not I like them, I'll never let the rules determine what type of shot I take. If you wouldn't take the shot without EAB, you still shouldn't be taking it with EAB. Just my opinion... |
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 8, 2011 18:12:37 GMT -5
I guess this question isn't exactly relevant to the discussion at hand, but did the state actually come out with an "urban zone" license? Haven't kept up on everything like I used to..... That is the way I understand it. You do not have to purchase it to hunt the UDZ area though. You can buy a regular archery tag. However, if you fill that tag on a buck (no doe before required) you are done buck wise in the state. If you buy a UDZ license then you can take a buc kin the UDZ and another buck statewide. BUT, you must take a doe first before using that UDZ buck tag. Make sense? Someone correct me if I am wrong.. |
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Post by deerman on Jan 8, 2011 18:22:23 GMT -5
Are you asking if you must EAB in a urban zone by taking a urban doe or just a doe period? Lol. Idk, I will have to read over it again.
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