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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2010 19:31:15 GMT -5
OK, woody and I have discussed fine tuning this event and tweeking what needs tweeked. We're open to suggestions from those that have attended....what can we do to make it better?
One thing we both want to do is try and improve the shooting a bit. I'm thinking maybe have the kids "qualify" at home or at their own range. Maybe send a picture or the actual target of 3 shots each at different yardage out to 75 yards or so? Then if time allows, we'll have a "one shot" shoot down on the levee Friday afternoon off of shooting sticks on a deer target(paper). the problem will be time...getting everyone there in time to shoot off?
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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 28, 2010 20:13:55 GMT -5
One thing that the mentors can consider using for the kids is a good set of shooting sticks or a bi-pod. Primos makes a good set. I know it is tough enough for an adult to hold up and gun and shoot off hand, so it has to be doubly difficult for a youngster.
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Post by lugnutz on Sept 28, 2010 21:42:05 GMT -5
I know from observing shawn, he "hurry's" his shot. Hopefully this past experience has taught him a valuable lesson.
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Post by lugnutz on Sept 28, 2010 21:55:19 GMT -5
I know their was some mixed emotion about the film crew being their, but we can use them as a bigger advantage next year in getting sponsers for the youth hunt. Its amazing how many companies would be willing to give more handouts-items away if it meant their product "might" get some air time.
Also, target practice is a good idea, but from personal experience its alot easier holding steady on piece of paper than on an animal. Especially when you are a youth. I'm with Woody, that a cheap set of shooting sticks is a "must have" for this event.
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Post by turkeyscout on Sept 29, 2010 6:31:44 GMT -5
One thing that the mentors can consider using for the kids is a good set of shooting sticks or a bi-pod. Primos makes a good set. I know it is tough enough for an adult to hold up and gun and shoot off hand, so it has to be doubly difficult for a youngster. GOOD ADVISE WOODY  |
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Sept 29, 2010 7:06:51 GMT -5
It's the parent/mentor's responsibility to make sure the youth can hit the kill zone on a consistent basis. Like lug said it's much different punching paper vs. a live critter even for adults.
As for a qualifying shoot I do not think that this is good idea as the pressure on the youngins will be very intense with everyone watching. I would venture to say that some non-lethal shots come with the turf on all youth hunts.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2010 8:27:50 GMT -5
My idea would be that the qualifying would be the ability to hit a 9" circle at 25,50 and 75 yards. One shot each....if they miss one. then they try again. Everyone would qualify and it will make them concentrate on a spot instead of shooting at a deer.
I think any idea to try and improve the youths chance of success needs to be explored, it's just one of the things we need to do to tweek the event. If we spend less time looking for wounded deer, it would lead to more time with other activities....and eating more food!
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Post by racktracker on Sept 29, 2010 8:38:12 GMT -5
Can anyone give some input on this?
If so here is mine.
Not sure I would go along with a "qualification". If a mentor and/or the kid self limits themselves to say less than 40 yard shots why would they need to qualify at 75 yards? They do need to learn what part of the deer to shoot at and not just shoot the whole deer. Something that us adults sometimes do too.
Some sort of a shooting stick arrangement or a shooting bar on the stand will help a lot. I don't ever take an off hand shot if I can keep from it.
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Post by dbd870 on Sept 29, 2010 11:13:53 GMT -5
I'm not in favor of a qualification either. I do think the mentors need to think ahead about how they can get their hunter's gun supported though. Some of it is just excitement, first time jitters & youth. I just don't know how you get over that except with experience.
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Post by hunter7x on Sept 29, 2010 12:14:31 GMT -5
we don't allow shots over 35 yards. we are dealing with several disabilities tho. But, I cant imagine any first timer being allowed to shoot 75.
also all of our kids shoot off of shooting sticks. BIG help for sure.
All of our guides are required to meet with and shoot with their hunter before they come to camp. We have a day at the Cass co Isaac Walton league set up for them to meet and Bullseye here in Kokomo allows the kids and guides to meet there and shoot also.
We have found that what a parent thinks is sighted in and what actually is can be a huge difference.
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Post by firstwd on Sept 29, 2010 12:31:44 GMT -5
I didn't see all of the crossbow shoot, but from what I heard the kids did great. I wonder if the "neighbor" would allow us to go over and have a "what you're hunting with" contest on an old 3D deer target? We could put the 8" Shoot-N-See targets on the 3D deer to see where the shot is hitting and for judging purposes. That would allow all the kids to shoot kinda in the heat of the moment, have others there to maybe give a little advice, and give them one more thing to brag about. We could always break it down into category of shotgun or rifle, and by maximum distance. I know Steph and I had agreed on 50 yards for her top distance for this year.
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Post by blackfootarcher on Sept 29, 2010 16:43:23 GMT -5
I like the idea firstwd has. Maybe use a life size target of a deer with no spot on it, and have the kids shoot at it. So it gives them an idea for areal life situation on a deer. The deer could be made of cardboard cutouts even. Also I found some stand setups were not very comfortable for the kids to shoot out of. Hannah didn't like the first one we went to Sunday night because she couldn't get a good set in most of the directions to shoot. So luckily we went back to our orginal two person stand that had the shooting rest on it, and scored. I thought that was a pretty good decision on her part. I think two man stands with the rails is the way to go for most kids. Practice is the main goal for any hunter to be ready for many different opportunities.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2010 8:11:04 GMT -5
here is another suggestion and one im surprised timex didnt mention as he had me do this when i was that age. after the youth gets used to shooting his/her gun off of a shooting bench take some real life hunting shots.hang a ladder stand up or put out a ground blind and have them get used to shooting from what they will be hunting from. as many adults know shooting from a stand or out of a window of a blind is totally different from shooting off a sand bag or shooting bench. when they feel comfortable shooting from the stand or ground blind start getting them used to shooting off hand, you never know when that shot will present itself. there was no better practice for me growing up than actually shooting from the stand i was going to be hunting out of.
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Post by windingwinds on Mar 8, 2011 21:13:41 GMT -5
hmmm, youth hunt sound fun! I should think that the prepping should be starting NOW, I know here we have been working on this 2011 season since Jan(my two sons:15, 11 and I). My season last year was my first "real" season and let me tell you, my gun shook first time I aimed at a live animal so some of that would be normal. Seems to me though, be setting up practice sessons for the spring/summer would be best to get the young'ens prepared. Be interesting to see though, who is more successful, those who pick up a gun the week before season vs those who work at it year round!
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Post by dbd870 on Mar 9, 2011 7:58:05 GMT -5
The 10 year old son of friends of ours has expressed interest in taking it up. I'm going to start working with him as soon as it's not cold/raining/snowing etc and see how he does over the summer. I have a Bog-Pod tripod that I want him to use regardless of anything else. He has been shooting archery with us for a handful of weeks now and I am pleased with his progress so far so that encourages me. I know things happen, but we all need to do all we can to help them make good hits.
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Post by forensicman on Mar 13, 2011 9:58:29 GMT -5
I have been looking for an outdoor range for practice, Madison loves shooting the black powder and is real good with it. She is just starting with the bow.
If you know of a outdoor range near Valparasio let me know.
When is the sign-up for this years youth hunt?
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Post by dbd870 on Mar 14, 2011 4:22:41 GMT -5
It won't be until closer to September.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2011 19:05:59 GMT -5
Without looking them up, what are the dates this year?
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Post by Woody Williams on Mar 14, 2011 19:26:40 GMT -5
I believe it will be September 24 and 25.
Early archery season comes in October 1st on a Saturday this year. It is the weekend before.
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Post by speckle on Mar 15, 2011 8:16:15 GMT -5
Timex, for our delta chapter we do a mandatory 2 day gun saftety and skeet shoot a couple weekends before waterfowl youth season. It has worked out great
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