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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 18, 2010 11:29:02 GMT -5
I looked at the starting dates again for the years 1999 through 2009.
Starting dates of November 12 through 15 averaged an ANTLERLESS kill of 41,400.
Starting dates of November 16 through 18 averaged an ANTLERLESS kill of 39,214.
The early start dates were responsible for an increased ANTLERLESS kill of 2,186.
Again, why are we wanting to move the gun season back?
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 18, 2010 11:54:54 GMT -5
I looked at the starting dates again for the years 1999 through 2009.
Starting dates of November 12 through 15 averaged an ANTLERED kill of 38,816
Starting dates of November 16 through 18 averaged an ANTLERED kill of 34,950
The early start dates were responsible for an increased ANTLERED kill of 3,866
Again, why are we wanting to move the gun season back?
Is it to save bucks and not kill does?
Splain that to me Lucy....
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Post by Decatur on Jul 18, 2010 11:57:54 GMT -5
Excellent points!
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Post by Decatur on Jul 18, 2010 11:58:20 GMT -5
Did you forward this info to the IDNR?
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Post by js2397 on Jul 18, 2010 12:05:30 GMT -5
That is a 5% reduction in antlerless kill and a 10% reduction in the antlered kill. Also during this decade the start date of the season was 16, 17, or 18 five times. In each of those years button bucks made up 11% of the harvest. Four of the five years that started 12, 13, 14, or 15 button bucks made up 10% of the harvest. Only in 2008 was the button buck harvest 11%. So by moving the start date forward the ratio is 1% closer to 60/40.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 18, 2010 12:05:54 GMT -5
Did you forward this info to the IDNR? Yes, sir but it wouldn't hurt of others did too. |
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Post by Decatur on Jul 18, 2010 12:10:20 GMT -5
Will do!
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 18, 2010 12:11:55 GMT -5
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 18, 2010 12:14:52 GMT -5
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Post by drs on Jul 18, 2010 12:45:30 GMT -5
I can't understand that either, Woody. These new Deer Hunting rules DON'T pass the "Smell Test" IMHO. |
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Post by js2397 on Jul 18, 2010 12:59:05 GMT -5
During the five late start years this decade the average buck harvest is 47,725 and the average total harvest is 111,225, so in those years bucks make up 43% of the harvest. In the five early start years the average buck harvest is 52,118 and the average overall harvest is 123,614, so in those years bucks make up 42% of the harvest. By moving the start dates forward we gain 1% towards 60/40 in the button buck harvest and another 1% in the antlered harvest. This is a 2% gain by having an early start date.
One more thing to consider in the five early start years only once did the buck harvest make up more than 44% of the total harvest. In contrast three of the five late start years had the buck harvest account for more than 44% of the harvest.
My thought is that hunters are going to kill their buck regardless of start date. When the start date is early the weather is a little better at the end of the season so more hunters are out on the final weekend.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 18, 2010 13:58:52 GMT -5
During the five late start years this decade the average buck harvest is 47,725 and the average total harvest is 111,225, so in those years bucks make up 43% of the harvest. In the five early start years the average buck harvest is 52,118 and the average overall harvest is 123,614, so in those years bucks make up 42% of the harvest. By moving the start dates forward we gain 1% towards 60/40 in the button buck harvest and another 1% in the antlered harvest. This is a 2% gain by having an early start date. One more thing to consider in the five early start years only once did the buck harvest make up more than 44% of the total harvest. In contrast three of the five late start years had the buck harvest account for more than 44% of the harvest. My thought is that hunters are going to kill their buck regardless of start date. When the start date is early the weather is a little better at the end of the season so more hunters are out on the final weekend. Rut time is the active time for BOTH bucks and does. If we see more, we can kill more deer - bucks or does . |
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Post by drs on Jul 18, 2010 14:09:34 GMT -5
Rut time is the active time for BOTH bucks and does. If we see more, we can kill more deer - bucks or does . Correct! I still say these proposed Deer Hunting Rules DON'T pass the "Smell Test"!! |
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Post by dbd870 on Jul 18, 2010 14:18:01 GMT -5
So the chosen ones can get their wall hangers (or a least that's what they believe).
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Post by lugnutz on Jul 18, 2010 20:50:40 GMT -5
I'd bet the outfitters in this state are slight upset as well about shortening the season.
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Post by js2397 on Jul 19, 2010 11:16:22 GMT -5
I just checked Ohio and Illinois harvest info for last season.
Ohio 126,848 male or 49% of the total harvest
134,412 female or 51% of the total harvest
Illinois 101,657 male or 50.5% of the harvest
99,644 female or 49.5% of the harvest
I also checked Missouri and antlered deer make up 50% of their harvest.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Jul 19, 2010 11:49:45 GMT -5
Rut time is the active time for BOTH bucks and does. If we see more, we can kill more deer - bucks or does . Correct! I still say these proposed Deer Hunting Rules DON'T pass the "Smell Test"!! Yup! If it smells like crap. It's crap!!!!!!!!  |
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