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Post by racktracker on Aug 21, 2009 19:35:22 GMT -5
Mr. Hopper,
Do you EVER have any thoughts of your own to post? Why must you always go do a copy and paste job of someone else's post from some other site? If we want to see what they post we would all go over there and read.
How about something original for a change....that is if you can do it.
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Post by greghopper on Aug 21, 2009 19:56:14 GMT -5
Mr. Hopper, Do you EVER have any thoughts of your own to post? Why must you always go do a copy and paste job of someone else's post from some other site? If we want to see what they post we would all go over there and read. How about something original for a change....that is if you can do it. Ok.....everything I have posted was copied and pasted???...Yeah right Iam guessing the Truth had a Little sting!!!!.....but go ahead with the PERSONAL ATTACKS...... forget the subject at hand "OBR"...carry on
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Post by racktracker on Aug 21, 2009 20:05:00 GMT -5
No attack at all. I'm just wondering why you don't voice your own opinion intead of copying and pasting someone else's?
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Post by greghopper on Aug 21, 2009 20:09:29 GMT -5
No attack at all. I'm just wondering why you don't voice your own opinion intead of copying and pasting someone else's? My opinion was posted....guess you didn't want to read that part!!!! but anywho carry on with the PERSONAL stuff , guess that's the new route of the thread ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png)
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Post by racktracker on Aug 21, 2009 20:41:22 GMT -5
No attack at all. I'm just wondering why you don't voice your own opinion intead of copying and pasting someone else's? My opinion was posted....guess you didn't want to read that part!!!! but anywho carry on with the PERSONAL stuff , guess that's the new route of the thread ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) Which post was an original?
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Post by greghopper on Aug 21, 2009 21:29:40 GMT -5
My opinion was posted....guess you didn't want to read that part!!!! but anywho carry on with the PERSONAL stuff , guess that's the new route of the thread ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) Which post was an original? Why I got to answer to you anyway!!! You the new self appointed "POST" police? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) ... or self appointed "MOD" ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) I guess when you can't rebut the "OBR" one moves to personal stuff....carry on BTW...which rule here have I broken??? since your the new self appointed "Post Police".... ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png)
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Post by deerman1 on Aug 21, 2009 21:53:03 GMT -5
One has to wonder why we are still having this OBR debate 7 years later. After all, given the grandiose claims for the success that would be achieved by the OBR the results should have been pretty obvious and hard to ignore. Instead we see tortured logic, moving goals, and desperate attempts to deflect any questions about the lack of results from the rule's most ardent supporters. After all these years the nagging question still remains; What exactly did we give up our opportunity for? Don't worry your not going to see it.....You don't want to see it and you and many others like you will never see it. No need to be sad-in about it because you can go to any other Hunting site in Indiana and they see it..... One thing to remember is that ALL the OBR folks are happy with "One" set of Antlers while a few others see the need for TWO sets...... I guess the folks who want more then one buck per year are just lost shooters. They are not bad people just a bit misguided likely with some type of need to attempt to boost their self image or pride via things called antlers.... Mr. Hopper its clear that you are a proponent of the OBR and that is your right . But lets cut the BS lines from both sides . Here is a simple question with all them mature bucks running around after the 3rd year of the OBR how many 140 inch plus book bucks have you taken during the OBR years . ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) ? ![huh](https://www.ingunowners.com/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif) ?? 1,2 maybe 3 or maybe you got that occasional once in a lifetime bucks and now you believe that it was all because of the OBR? Come on be totally honest fess up post pics as well . I will wager that you do not have more than two in the books or book eligible over the last 7 years. How am I doing or maybe you just got that one giant deer !! How am I doing .Lets here it please and since you obviously can post pics here show us all our folly and what has been achieved with the OBR that we all are missing out on. Thank you and now lets see what you got so we can all file in and support the loss of opperatunity ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png)
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Post by greghopper on Aug 21, 2009 22:07:18 GMT -5
Don't worry your not going to see it.....You don't want to see it and you and many others like you will never see it. No need to be sad-in about it because you can go to any other Hunting site in Indiana and they see it..... One thing to remember is that ALL the OBR folks are happy with "One" set of Antlers while a few others see the need for TWO sets...... I guess the folks who want more then one buck per year are just lost shooters. They are not bad people just a bit misguided likely with some type of need to attempt to boost their self image or pride via things called antlers.... Mr. Hopper its clear that you are a proponent of the OBR and that is your right . But lets cut the BS lines from both sides . Here is a simple question with all them mature bucks running around after the 3rd year of the OBR how many 140 inch plus book bucks have you taken during the OBR years . ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) ? ![huh](https://www.ingunowners.com/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif) ?? 1,2 maybe 3 or maybe you got that occasional once in a lifetime bucks and now you believe that it was all because of the OBR? Come on be totally honest fess up post pics as well . I will wager that you do not have more than two in the books or book eligible over the last 7 years. How am I doing or maybe you just got that one giant deer !! How am I doing .Lets here it please and since you obviously can post pics here show us all our folly and what has been achieved with the OBR that we all are missing out on. Thank you and now lets see what you got so we can all file in and support the loss of opperatunity ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) Who are you to even ask? Why does one have to explain his AZZ to someone that can't even smell a "FART"... but then again I guess this is some more PERSONAL STUFF since you can't rebut the OBR ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) .... I guess since your one of the "Great Two Buck Klan" and so called "Better Hunter" you most have a few pics your self....Post some for us!!!! Hell just "ONE" will do!!! BTW..There's TWO things in the state you got to Live with ...THE "OBR & WOMEN"....you cant change either ... ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by HuntMeister on Aug 21, 2009 22:31:15 GMT -5
5-4-3-2-1.... ![>:(](https://www.indianagunowners.com/images/smilies/woot.gif)
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Post by greghopper on Aug 21, 2009 22:54:44 GMT -5
Who are you to even ask? Why does one have to explain his AZZ to someone that can't even smell a "FART"... but then again I guess this is some more PERSONAL STUFF since you can't rebut the OBR ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) .... I guess since your one of the "Great Two Buck Klan" and so called "Better Hunter" you most have a few pics your self....Post some for us!!!! Hell just "ONE" will do!!! It was not personal at all just asking you to back up what you claim as the great end all .If you want us to back something you must provide the evidance for us to rally around . You seem to want to claim personal attacks when your backed up aginst the wall with proff needed .and the was no personal attack from me show me i am wrong. Here is one of my bookers that I have taken and I killed many more big bucks prior to the OBR .Heck my son killed a booker as his first deer kill the year befor the OBR. Hummm Here ya go one pic as you requested. Where has that been said??? "the great end all".. I could careless if you rally around anything... you seam to forget that the MAJORITY of Deer Hunter voted for placement of the OBR, and you are in the MINORITY of the that group....But I guess you can always "WISH"One thing to remember is that ALL the OBR folks are happy with "One" set of Antlers while a few others see the need for TWO sets in attempt to boost their self image or pride.... BTW...I sure everyone knew you had some good Deer to post or you would have never asked to see other's.....Old Poker trick ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) ....
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Post by greghopper on Aug 21, 2009 23:22:57 GMT -5
Oh no Mr Hopper I am not in any minority .And your voteing was done by a very small hand sellected portion or deer hunters less than 3500 if I am not mistaken and the quetionair was slanted to approval of the OBR and it was barely excepted by the couplke of thousand hand selected hunters . I also know for a fact that you have not posted up them big ones that you netted now have you ?? I rest my case. oh here is a wall full of mature bucks most on that wall taken pre OBR!! and sorry but the camera was a turd but hay the pic is old.Facts sir facts. I hate posting pics but you are dead wrong Hopper you just do not know it yet!! ;D ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) ... From mid-June to mid-August, 2006, a mail survey of Indiana resident deer hunters who purchased 2005 Indiana deer hunting licenses was conducted for the Indiana Department of Natural Resources (IDNR). A stratified, random sample of 10,480 Indiana resident deer hunters was polled using contact information provided by IDNR through its point-of-sale database. After removing undeliverable addresses (changed addresses, passings, refusals) final response was 47% (4,566 respondents); 62 of these indicated they had not deer hunted in the past 4 yearsand were removed from analysis, for a final response group of 4,504. Error tolerances for this sample are +/-1 percentage point (95% confidence level). Key findings revealed: Almost two-thirds of Indiana deer hunters characterize deer hunting as “one of my most important recreational activities” (62%), and 22% said deer hunting was their “most important recreational activity.” Indiana urbanites who are deer hunters are more likely than Indiana suburbanites and rural dwellers to characterize deer hunting as “my most important recreational activity.” Most Indiana deer hunters tended to rate the overall success of Indiana’s deer management program as “good” (55% statewide). More deer hunters were likely to evaluate the program as “excellent” (10% statewide) than “poor” (4% statewide). About one-quarter (26% statewide) characterized the program as “fair.” When asked to express their sentiments toward Indiana’s one-buck-rule as a continuing regulation, 48% of Indiana deer hunters responded “strongly support,” and 23% said “moderately support.” Indiana deer hunters who used only archery gear to deer hunt were especially supportive of one-buck-rule (64% “strongly support”), as well as those deer hunters using archery and muzzleloader gear only (62% “strongly support). Indiana deer hunters thought one-buck-rule (1) helped the state’s deer herd management, (2) provided them opportunity to harvest a buck (small or large), (3) increased their opportunity to harvest a big buck, and (4) increased the number of bucks they see. Neutral sentiment was expressed toward the effects of one-buck-rule on increasing the number of antlerless deer seen, number of big bucks seen, and limiting deer hunters’ chances to harvest the bucks they want. Indiana deer hunters as a group did not agree that one-buck-rule diminished their enjoyment of Indiana deer hunting. Of the various geographies over which one-buck-rule might be implemented (countyspecific, block of counties, public land only, private land only), Indiana deer hunters indicated support for (42% strongly, 22% moderately) one-buck-rule statewide in Indiana BTW...I not Here to brag and boast or claim to be a "PRO"...Iam here to post some "FACTS" ... ;D
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Post by deerman1 on Aug 21, 2009 23:46:07 GMT -5
I will take your lack of pic postings as an omition of fact that my sumation of your success to be spot on .If not please post up .But I still see OBR suppot from most as either misguided management or successful propiganda campain or plain and simple desire of the huntewrswho struggle to have mature bucks legislated away from hunters who have some success taking them so that those who struggle may get their gratutitous big buck. OH yha it was 4500 respondants and the pre OBR probe was less than that total for receiveing the original questionair. We will not dissagree but the one thing I do know is that TBR is on its way back whether the OBR guys want it or not so welcome to the flip side of the coin . It is my prediction you are about to find out what its like to get what you do not want so in the words of most OBRs get over it!!! ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by greghopper on Aug 21, 2009 23:59:11 GMT -5
I will take your lack of pic postings as an omition of fact that my sumation of your success to be spot on .If not please post up .But I still see OBR suppot from most as either misguided management or successful propiganda campain or plain and simple desire of the huntewrswho struggle to have mature bucks legislated away from hunters who have some success taking them so that those who struggle may get their gratutitous big buck. OH yha it was 4500 respondants and the pre OBR probe was less than that total for receiveing the original questionair. We will not dissagree but the one thing I do know is that TBR is on its way back whether the OBR guys want it or not so welcome to the flip side of the coin . It is my prediction you are about to find out what its like to get what you do not want so in the words of most OBRs get over it!!! ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) ...I not Here to brag and boast or claim to be a "PRO"...Iam here to post some "FACTS" No need to step down to your Level and be labled a "Antler ......"
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Post by deerman1 on Aug 22, 2009 0:00:06 GMT -5
BTW...I not Here to brag and boast...Iam here to post some "FACTS" ... ;D Oh neither am I. I just posted a few of my pre OBR facts in the form of pics for you to see .But like most OBR arguers you seen it as a brag or boast.But what better facts or proof than the pics of pre OBR bucks.But to listen to you and your cohorts they were almost not here til the OBR and your stupid opperatunity limiting rule took effect . I simply ask you to show your hand now .So I call your bluff show or fold "that" my freind is poker at its finest .I have many more aces in this hand do you ?If OBR supporters hunted and scouted half as hard as they argued about the wonders of the OBR they would have barns full of mature buck pics and mounts.Legislation is the lazy mans way and always will be. Educate don't legislate!!!
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Post by deerman1 on Aug 22, 2009 0:22:45 GMT -5
By the way Hopper you are the only one clling names so far so call me what you want that is what children do in middle school. I am neither and" Antler ...whatever" or claim to be a "pro " anything .What I am is a hunter that hunts the deer he wants to hunt not the ones that you or anyone else wants me too that is all I am. I always have said hunt your hunt to every hunter I have ever known . I do not know what you are about you want big antlered deer via the OBR for yourself but when another hunter takes some big ones they are "Antler.......Whatever" you make no sense . ![:-X](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/lipssealed.png) And by the way just to show you how noboa ![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/Woowoo1/censored.gif) ll I am I removedthe three posts I had with pics on them because the only person on here I want to know that I was for eal and not some Internet hunter was you and I am sure point was made .That is the mesure of a man I am. I will gladly talk about this or any subject in a civil manor on here or in person with any one .But I am compleatly over your argumets ,name calling ,and insults.You have no more to say to me tonite or about this subject sir.
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 22, 2009 9:25:06 GMT -5
Let's keep it on topic , fellers.
Thanks..
WW
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Post by birddog on Aug 22, 2009 20:34:10 GMT -5
Woody, Beings this thread has now worn out it's life on here,I suggest that you close it!!!!!!!!
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Post by jkd on Aug 23, 2009 15:47:39 GMT -5
Not sure what is proved one way or the other by what size deer one hunter takes or doesn't take... just because a guy doesn't put crosshairs on a 140+ doesn't mean there's not that size or bigger running around the woods, OBR or not....
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Post by racktracker on Aug 23, 2009 18:20:07 GMT -5
Not sure what is proved one way or the other by what size deer one hunter takes or doesn't take... just because a guy doesn't put crosshairs on a 140+ doesn't mean there's not that size or bigger running around the woods, OBR or not.... Ditto. The older those bucks get the harder they are to hunt. A mature buck is almost a different species. Sure, some get lucky every now and then and kill a real nice buck, but my hat is off to the guys that consistantly kill big bucks.
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Post by deerman1 on Aug 23, 2009 19:41:53 GMT -5
Not sure what is proved one way or the other by what size deer one hunter takes or doesn't take... just because a guy doesn't put crosshairs on a 140+ doesn't mean there's not that size or bigger running around the woods, OBR or not.... Ditto. The older those bucks get the harder they are to hunt. A mature buck is almost a different species. Sure, some get lucky every now and then and kill a real nice buck, but my hat is off to the guys that consistently kill big bucks. Yes that is the key a hunter that" consistently" is taking the big ones is much different than some guy who tags one big one and then sets with a tag in his pocket for 5 years or the next 5 years takes 1.5 year olds and then attributes that one deer to some program when in fact the one hit wonders have been happening in the deer hunting world for as long as there has been modern times hunting. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) .
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