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Post by greghopper on Nov 25, 2008 8:01:39 GMT -5
got this in a email........................................................................Hi Everyone, Not really to not take the alarmist, scare tactic route but we feel compelled to email the hundreds of thousands of casual gun people who come here every month (in addition to the hundreds of thousands of gun nuts) that the election of Barack Obama is almost definitely going to bring changes to the gun laws in the form of new taxes and hoops for gun dealers to jump through, as well as permanent bans on individuals selling firearms themselves.
The days of being able to bring grandpa's old guns to a gun show and sell them off in an afternoon are probably going to be gone within a short amount of time after President Elect Obama gets into office.
Most likely the entire American tradition of the gunshow will disappear.
There is a lot of media attention today about people in a frenzy to BUY GUNS, because they are afraid that they won't be able to get them.
But for those of us with closets full of guns we don't and most likely will never shoot, guns that we've procrastinated selling, there is a genuine danger to our ability to be to SELL THOSE GUNS OURSELVES in the future.
So if you don't want to end up losing 30% of their value because you have to transfer the gun out through a gun dealer, get moving and sell them now.
The DEMAND FOR GUNS IS HUGE. We have record traffic on GunsAmerica, and the gunshows are a zoo.
Take the time and sell your guns now, at a gunshow, on GunsAmerica, or any other legal venue.
And remember, if you ship a gun to someone, it has to be sent to a transfer FFL dealer in their state. There is no legal way to ship a gun to an individual, unless they personally are a Curio & Relic FFL holder, which only applies to old and collectible guns that are specifically on the list at the ATF website.
Some states have restrictions on individuals shipping out guns themselves as well. Ask a dealer in your state. We do not give legal advice. It is your responsability to ship guns out legally.
Also consider buying ammunition for the guns you have. There will almost definitely be a new tax coming on ammo.
That's all for now. We felt compelled to send something letting those detached from the problem know what is almost definately coming. [/size]
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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 25, 2008 8:27:32 GMT -5
Good info Greg.. I sell very few, if any guns though. They don't eat much, so I hang onto them. Woodmaster will get the bulk of them someday. Obama and his Dem controlled congress is VERY scary... I'll bet the NRA membership is sky rocketing...
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Post by Sasquatch on Nov 25, 2008 8:44:28 GMT -5
Good info Greg.. I sell very few, if any guns though. They don't eat much, so I hang onto them. Woodmaster will get the bulk of them someday. Obama and his Dem controlled congress is VERY scary... I'll bet the NRA membership is sky rocketing...It Jolly well should be. Time to get off that fence and join the fight.
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Post by drs on Nov 25, 2008 9:11:11 GMT -5
Okay, I read "greghopper's" article/post. In my opinion I think it is stupid to be buying in a panic mode. I've seen this panic buying when Clinton was elected back in the '90's and very little happen to curtail my own purchasing of gun or ammo. It would be political suicide for lawmakers to pass such legislation, for both Republican & Democrats,who might be just a little pro-gun control. Obama would be a one-term president too. Still the fact that people are buying guns & Ammo, at the current rate, shows that the general population is NOT for ANY Gun Control!
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Post by dbd870 on Nov 25, 2008 9:33:40 GMT -5
GunsAmerica is doing some marketing I see.
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Post by Old Ironsights on Nov 25, 2008 10:07:18 GMT -5
GunsAmerica is doing some marketing I see. ;D Yep. No such thing as a Gun I Don't Want.
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Post by Russ Koon on Nov 25, 2008 10:27:45 GMT -5
My thoughts exactly, OIS.
"Guns I don't want" are about as easy to find around here as "leftover apple pie". Mythical things. No evidence of their actual existence.
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Post by 76chevy on Nov 25, 2008 10:42:21 GMT -5
The article begins, "Not really to not take the alarmist, scare tactic route" but that is exactly the route it takes. those benefiting the most from this are those in the gun industry who are in part drumming up irrational fear and panic to drive sales Okay, I read "greghopper's" article/post. In my opinion I think it is stupid to be buying in a panic mode. I've seen this panic buying when Clinton was elected back in the '90's and very little happen to curtail my own purchasing of gun or ammo. It would be political suicide for lawmakers to pass such legislation, for both Republican & Democrats,who might be just a little pro-gun control. Obama would be a one-term president too. Still the fact that people are buying guns & Ammo, at the current rate, shows that the general population is NOT for ANY Gun Control!
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Post by drs on Nov 25, 2008 11:06:06 GMT -5
Glad to see someone else with my opinion. This panic buying is only going to increase prices and cause spot shortages. This happened when Bill Clinton became President & when the House & Senate passed versions of "Assault Weapons Ban" & Brady Bills. Neither did anything to curb gun crimes. So all you "Panic Buyers" are doing is hurting yourselves by causing shortages. The Gun Dealers are laughing all the way to the bank.
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Post by varmint101 on Nov 25, 2008 11:46:13 GMT -5
Ya, definately marketing I believe.
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Post by TagTeamHunter on Nov 25, 2008 11:58:46 GMT -5
I am so glad to see this type of response. Yes Obama is anti-gun but he has too many other issues to resolve. One thing Obama is; he know how to play the game. He isn't going to take on an issue that will split the Dems. Can you see some of the 'good ole' boys from the South voting for an anti-gun issue. You want to help keep our rights .. join an Pro gun Org. They have the access required in Washington.
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Post by Decatur on Nov 25, 2008 12:57:10 GMT -5
Pure matketting B.S.! Plus, maybe a plot by the anti's to get our guns! You never know!
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Post by indianahick on Nov 25, 2008 13:49:45 GMT -5
Don't know about scare tactics, sales hype but I do know that one of Osama's boggiest boosters here stated that he wanted to see the Assault Weapons ban and others re-instated when Osama became president. So I feel sure that there will be at the very least a re-enactment of the Klinton weapons ban and this time for life. Next will come the ban of certain firearms types or calibers based upon barrel size. After all he is from Chicago where they want to ban everything with a muzzle larger than .50.
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Post by Sasquatch on Nov 25, 2008 14:01:40 GMT -5
Don't know about scare tactics, sales hype but I do know that one of Osama's boggiest boosters here stated that he wanted to see the Assault Weapons ban and others re-instated when Osama became president. So I feel sure that there will be at the very least a re-enactment of the Klinton weapons ban and this time for life. Next will come the ban of certain firearms types or calibers based upon barrel size. After all he is from Chicago where they want to ban everything with a muzzle larger than .50. Yes, PANIC... everything short of running through the streets turning over cars is understandable. This guy is anti-gun all the way. Are we just going to count on him not having the spare time to enact his gun ban ideas? What kind of strategy is that?
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Post by drs on Nov 25, 2008 14:21:23 GMT -5
Pure matketting B.S.! Plus, maybe a plot by the anti's to get our guns! You never know! CORRECT! Just pure marketing "B.S." Lots of people will get sucked into this panic mode and spend money, they don't have, on Guns & Ammo. AGAIN, I saw this during President Clinton's term. The Government should deal with the economic mess, they help to create, instead of trying to pass more useless gun laws.
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Post by danf on Nov 25, 2008 15:27:13 GMT -5
Only problem is that Obsama is much more radical than Klinton ever wished he could be. Yes, it's a panic buy right now, but that panic is not unfounded. I don't believe a minute that the dealers are behind it- I'm sure many of them are rightfully worried whether or not they will be open in a year. Remember, they don't have to ban the guns to slow us down. All that has to be done is place a HUGE tax on anything firearm related to do that. I'm not one to believe the AWB will be reenacted anytime in the next 2-3 years, but I do believe a HUGE tax increase is on the horizon.
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Post by Old Ironsights on Nov 25, 2008 16:47:31 GMT -5
However, GunsAmerica IS behind that mass Email...
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Post by danf on Nov 25, 2008 18:38:23 GMT -5
I'll give you that much. ;D ;D My personal feeling is that most dealers would rather the volume slow down to a manageable level- many of them, especially those dealing with AR parts are simply swamped. Del-Ton is supposedly backlogged by 2 WEEKS. Not backordered, but backlogged. Meaning they take your order and it's 2 weeks before they even look at it again!
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Post by indianahick on Nov 25, 2008 20:19:09 GMT -5
Guns-America, I looked at a Glock there once, Price was okay, Found out what I had to do to get it. By the time I paid a local shop 25-40 bucks for doing the paper work it would have cost more than buying local. So I just bought local and saved.
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