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Post by kevin1 on Aug 2, 2005 13:28:02 GMT -5
Kevin, just because you think it's over priced doesn't mean it's still not a bargin for those that want to hunt there. AS said, you have to be there to see the difference. Since I'm not a trophy hunter they don't really have anything I want anyway , I can take plenty of does here , but if given the chance to bow hunt there I don't want to have to turn it down because of gouging . Traveling to hunt isn't always about antlers , sometimes you just want a chance to visit friends(yes , believe it or not I have some . LOL) and popping a doe is reason enough for me to save up the travel money . My greater concern was actually for the trend that it sets with ever escalting prices crowding out the little guy . I know that for someone like you who leases land that would be an ideal situation , but don't kill the goose just for the eggs . Once they raise the stakes the surrounding states will probably do the same and you end up with price wars that the average guy will lose . Steiny posted something earlier about the prices out West , I looked into elk hunting once and I was dumbfounded by what I found . If that mentality spreads to here we'll all have to find something else to do for a hobby because only the rich will be able to hunt like over in Europe .
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Post by multidigits on Aug 2, 2005 14:27:16 GMT -5
Well those days are already here, and have been for awhile. Indiana is as bad as anyone, when it comes to price gouging.
As for traveling for something other than hunting the male species, not very many do it. Surely not enough for DNR's to worry about. Illinois charges $25 for a NR doe tag. Check the price for a NR to hunt a doe in Indiana.
Elk are different. Millions of hunters in states without elk want to hunt them. The price of a tag has never stopped any of them. In a trip out west, it one little exspence in the overall big picture. What is different the further west you get, is that game dept. make their annual budget on the backs of the NR hunters. Resident fees are very low but some of them have to draw tags to get to hunt in their own state. Imagine that if it happened here.
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Post by hornharvester on Aug 2, 2005 14:30:02 GMT -5
Did you think maybe this kind of price gouging is the reason the number of young people hunting is on the decline? h.h.
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Post by multidigits on Aug 2, 2005 14:39:25 GMT -5
Nope, don't think so. They rarely pay the bills anyway, and they would glad drop that much on a play station or something stupid to waste their time on. Nope, don't think so. And youth hunting is on the rise in some states, according to the latest info available.
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Post by jdmiller on Aug 2, 2005 14:52:22 GMT -5
Did you think maybe this kind of price gouging is the reason the number of young people hunting is on the decline? h.h. I thought I would add my 2 cents worth . Todays youth have other interest than we did . Sports , video games and computers have took the place of the simple pleasures we enjoyed . When I was a kid I couldnt wait to get off the bus and head to woods to squirrel hunt or grab a fishing pole and head for a pond or creek . All of this is foreign to most kids today . As parents we run our kids here and there for practice or school related functions . Its just not like it used to be . The cost related to hunting and fishing in my opinion is not a contributing factor in declining numbers . Other states know that someone will pay reguardless of how much . As far as youth ... we all need to be involved . We must promote our sport in a different manner . Weapons choices are a good start . Mentoring programs are another . We just have to think outside of the norm if we want to recruit them .
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Post by raporter1 on Aug 2, 2005 16:48:02 GMT -5
Why don't you guys just stay in Indiana. Thanks Wilson, that is a great idea.
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Post by cambygsp on Aug 2, 2005 17:39:45 GMT -5
Heck...I aint mad at em.....they can raise their tags to $3000.00 each, won't hurt my feelings.
My only heartburn lies in the fact that so many get so upset about private landowners "selling" hunting opportunities, yet some of these same folks jump at the chance to "buy" a hunting opportunity in other states.
I know it's fact, but I just hate it that deer hunting has become so commercial.
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Post by multidigits on Aug 2, 2005 17:50:54 GMT -5
Yeah right......you just hate it because you choose not to be part of it. Spending money on hunting is fun. Name one other expense where you can so much personal satisfaction. It doesn't exist.
As for the sport itself, it will endure many many more years of growth and most of us will be a part of it. There's not one hunter in 1000 that wouldn't want to shoot a buck that is common place in Ill.
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Post by cambygsp on Aug 3, 2005 5:26:24 GMT -5
I think you missed my point Multi.....Really, I have no problem with what the state of Illionis decides to sell their "hunting opportunities" for. It don't affect me because I have no desire to hunt deer in their state.
It really boils down to supply & demand....and I agree, they have it both..... the supply and the demand. Its the same business principle that high fence opperators, opperate under. The better their supply is, the more they can demand for the opportunity. And just like you said, some will always think "it's a good deal" because it's what they are personaly looking for.
I would be the first to admit, if I ever "lucked" into a nice buck I would be tickeled pink.....and I am SURE.....**LUCK** is what would be responsible because I elect to NOT do anything to improve my chances at that nice buck, other than just show up in the woods come deer season.
I do like spending money on hunting though....my problem is.... I LIKE SPENDING MONEY ON LOTS OF THINGS!!
I like spending money on vacations, I like spending money at the horse track, I like spending money in nice restaurants, I like spending money viewing sporting events.......Basicly, if it costs money....I LIKE DOING IT!....or so I have been told...LOL
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Post by steiny on Aug 3, 2005 18:02:08 GMT -5
I'd agree J.D. It's a different world, and most kids don't have much interest in hunting or fishing. Money has little to do with it.
Regarding the opinions on "price gouging". It's a free country .... don't hunt there if you don't like the deal. However, don't look for any real sweet hunting bargains to come down the pike anytime soon. It will likely never get any cheaper than it is today.
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Post by wilson on Sept 30, 2005 11:38:13 GMT -5
I went yesterday and purchased my Bow tags and to my surprise they are phone in tags. After you harvest your deer you call an 800 number they give you a confirmation number to place on your tag. Shotgun tags are they same. It makes no sense to me to do away with check-in stations. I'm afraid to say I see a record number of deer being killed and a lot of record-book bucks getting killed. Who's going to tell if these deer aren't being harvested by rifle. The state needs to go ahead and allow a rifle season just as Iowa has. This is just another method for the politicians to fatten their pockets. Deer hunting in Illinois is a Billion dollar industry annually, yet they are making cut-backs in the states bread maker the DNR. We have had a CWD scare the past 2 years around Dekalb, IL. It doesn't seem to matter to the state to continue testing statewide, which was being done with the check-in stations through-out archery and gun seasons to help us control the spread of this disease. How do you guys feel about phone in tags?
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