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Post by cambygsp on Aug 1, 2005 9:43:29 GMT -5
Last year, they sell 15,000 in 23 hours. This year they raise the price and still sell over 18,000. Looks like business is good. That's a sign of the DNR doing something very nicely. People go there for one reason--quality bucks. Yes I agree 100% The business of selling antlers is very good in todays times. |
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Post by hornharvester on Aug 1, 2005 9:51:35 GMT -5
I don't get it. With all the deer we have running around our fair state, why would ANYONE pay that ... to hunt over there? Someone please explain how it works..... Do you get over there and report in to the outfitter....does he then show you trail cam pics of the deer you will be hunting. Does he take you out to a stand he has placed, trimmed and preselected for you. Are you hunting deer that have been "trained" to take that trail in the off season? You know, the more a customer spends the MORE a customer expects....do you see a trend here? Camby, Just watch the Outdoor Channel! Guided hunts in Ill are on there all the time. Pay the money and shoot a big'n. I figure in a couple more years we should be seeing the same kind of hunts on there from Indiana since we've got the OBR. h.h. |
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Post by multidigits on Aug 1, 2005 11:39:15 GMT -5
Illinois sells tags and licenses, giving you the privlige to hunt for antlers, they don't sell antlers. Those you have to earn by actually hunting a day or two.
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Post by cambygsp on Aug 1, 2005 12:02:38 GMT -5
Illinois sells tags and licenses, giving you the privlige to hunt for antlers, they don't sell antlers. Those you have to earn by actually hunting a day or two. I aint knocking it multi.....just stating the obvious about the "antler market" You bring up a good point though about ... actually hunting **a day or two**. If the goal is to harvest that trophy in a "day or two"....why do game managers "manage" for maximum days afield. I always thought the more days a fella hunts, the more he spends on equipment, thus generating more P-R monies. Also the more days we hunt, the more valuable we are to the economy!!! |
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Post by greg on Aug 1, 2005 15:32:33 GMT -5
Check out the price of non res western; elk, moose, sheep, goat tags, etc. if you want to get knocked off your feet. I look at it this way. If you can swing the $393, and you have an enjoyable hunt, it was money well spent. Nobody holds a gun to your head and makes you go. People plunk down $65 for a 4 hour round of golf every day without batting an eye lash. My Colorado ELK tag will cost me 483.25. My Colorado limited mule deer tag was 293.25. While I am there I can take blue grouse, rabbit, and other small game, as well as fish for trout, all for just a few dollars more. The state offers millions of acres of public land, with the highest quality of game available in many units. There is simply NO WAY that a whitetail tag in Illinois is worth more than either one of those Colorado tags. The IL deer tags are RIDICULOUSLY overpriced, no matter how you look at it. It will be somewhat amazing if it turns out the NR's continue to accept being gigged by the IL legislature over the long haul. |
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Post by cambygsp on Aug 1, 2005 15:59:02 GMT -5
We went down to Memphis TN about a month ago, took 70-west over to Effingham and 57 south down to Memphis. We counted well over 250 deer while driving through Ill. Far more deer than I have ever seen on the sides of the roads here.
I bet those big spenders from out of state don't do much for the antlerless harvest!
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Post by multidigits on Aug 1, 2005 16:00:40 GMT -5
Obvious;y, 18,000 or so disagree with the value. There's no doubt that if your target is a large whitetail, that Illinois is the best choice or one of the top 3 choices for you to seek that animal. If you haven't hunted there, it's hard to imagine the difference in quality. As for comparison, Colorado doesn't compare with quality animals except in very few isolated spots.
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 1, 2005 16:01:37 GMT -5
Just to show you how far I go back I can remember when the non-resident Colorado archery tags were $25 each for deer and elk.
When they went to "either/or" the price jumped to $90 each. The "either/or" was that you had to choose between gun and bow. Of course the price reflected what the gun hunters were paying at the time.
Of course the Hot T camp was $75 for the week - meals included. That was the first year I went. The second year it went up to $125... Then the editorial staff from Bowhunter Magazine went out there and hunted a week. They wrote an article about it and after that the price started climbing REAL FAST..
I loved Colorado.....
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 1, 2005 17:12:43 GMT -5
From the Illinois DNR...
2005 Non-Resident Archery Deer Permits - Everyone that applied will be awarded permits. There will be no more permits available after the July 31st deadline.
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Post by wilson on Aug 1, 2005 18:03:06 GMT -5
Why don't you guys just stay in Indiana.
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Post by hornharvester on Aug 1, 2005 18:20:02 GMT -5
Why don't you guys just stay in Indiana. Thats a real good idea! One IL buck tag costs almost as much as my IN lifetime did. Besides with the OBR there should be trophy bucks behind every tree soon. h.h. |
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Post by steiny on Aug 1, 2005 19:33:06 GMT -5
I seriously doubt if that $393 price tag restricted anyone involved in this thread from going over there to hunt.
How come the guys that aren't going to go anyway, bark the loudest about the price ?
Like somebody else said..... about 18,000 non resident hunters feel it is a decent deal.
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Post by cambygsp on Aug 1, 2005 21:45:27 GMT -5
Like somebody else said..... about 18,000 non resident hunters feel it is a decent deal. Yea....and how many **MILLIONS** non ill residents said NO WAY!!!! |
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Post by greg on Aug 2, 2005 0:10:39 GMT -5
I seriously doubt if that $393 price tag restricted anyone involved in this thread from going over there to hunt. How come the guys that aren't going to go anyway, bark the loudest about the price ? Like somebody else said..... about 18,000 non resident hunters feel it is a decent deal. I doubt that guys will be writing the IL Legislature thanking them for doubling the tag cost. Some guys want to hunt IL no matter what, so they'll pay the price. That's exactly what the Legislature counted on. They elected to nail the NR hunter because they knew they could get away with it. You can't expect prospective NR hunters to take this kind of beating without saying a word. I know when something is wrong, and what they have done is SERIOUSLY WRONG. I call it price gouging, plain and simple. |
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Post by kevin1 on Aug 2, 2005 3:49:59 GMT -5
I seriously doubt if that $393 price tag restricted anyone involved in this thread from going over there to hunt. How come the guys that aren't going to go anyway, bark the loudest about the price ? Like somebody else said..... about 18,000 non resident hunters feel it is a decent deal. The ones who are barking the loudest might have wanted to go but were turned off by the blatant price gouging . One of the reasons I bought an LL was to free up funding for out of state hunting , and the minute I do the closest state that I wanted to try doubled their price . They can't justify the hike in any way that will make me want to pay it . |
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Post by multidigits on Aug 2, 2005 7:11:35 GMT -5
.....because you haven't hunted there, you'll not know why the price was raised. My opinion, the price increase and the idea hatched in the Legislature last year that recieved so much negative press was a good deal and worked as planned. Everyone wanting to hunt got a license. Everyone needing a license got a license. The DNR made some extra money that they needed badly. Everybody is happy, except those of you that wouldn't have hunted there anyway. Figure that one out and you win the prize for the day.
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Post by duff on Aug 2, 2005 8:00:09 GMT -5
Steiny hit the nail on the head there. $4-500 isn't all that much for entertainment these days. Sure sucks when price goes up on anything, but ain't much that goes down in price.
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Post by kevin1 on Aug 2, 2005 8:39:10 GMT -5
.....because you haven't hunted there, you'll not know why the price was raised. Since I'm unwilling to abet price gouging I'm unlikely to find out , Multidigits . It doesn't matter to me why they raised it , it matters that it's just too much for me to consider when I can get much better bargains in the other surrounding states . It wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit if I never hunt there , between their crowded hunting and limited access they probably don't have anything that would interest me anyway . Personally , I'd like to see the states surrounding Illinois raise their non-res bow hunting license fee to match Illinois' , but only for Illinois residents . |
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 2, 2005 9:05:39 GMT -5
.....because you haven't hunted there, you'll not know why the price was raised. Since I'm unwilling to abet price gouging I'm unlikely to find out , Multidigits . It doesn't matter to me why they raised it , it matters that it's just too much for me to consider when I can get much better bargains in the other surrounding states . It wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit if I never hunt there , between their crowded hunting and limited access they probably don't have anything that would interest me anyway . Personally , I'd like to see the states surrounding Illinois raise their non-res bow hunting license fee to match Illinois' , but only for Illinois residents . I'm all for reciprocal agreements among states.. that will probably never happen though.. If you look at Indiana's non-resident fee of charging per deer that number can get pretty high too if a non-resident wanted to hunt and kill more than one deer. |
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Post by multidigits on Aug 2, 2005 11:33:02 GMT -5
Recip Agreements rarely work or are allowed to work because differnt Dept. have different needs and expenses.
Kevin, just because you think it's over priced doesn't mean it's still not a bargin for those that want to hunt there. AS said, you have to be there to see the difference.
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