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Post by cambygsp on Sept 12, 2008 4:30:06 GMT -5
With all the attention the presidential race is generating, lets not forget about the Indiana Govenor Race.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Sept 12, 2008 6:47:28 GMT -5
Mitch!
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Post by danf on Sept 12, 2008 6:55:06 GMT -5
A lot of people don't like Mitch, since he's the first governor in a long time to actually DO something while in office. Yes, he leased the toll road, but look at what that money has done and is doing. The interest on the money from that lease alone is producing more money per hour than any of us will make in 5 years..... I-69 extension is a problem left to him by the O'Bannon administration. The property tax deal sucks all around and the blame can NOT be placed soley on Mitch. I'm not sure how much of it he was responsible for- most of it is a product of the State Congress and local government. We have a budget surplus at the moment, something that O'Bannon decided to do away with as I recall. Mitch is the only choice for me for governor this fall.  |
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Post by Hawkeye on Sept 12, 2008 7:00:37 GMT -5
His opponent keeps talking about what she can do,TALK ,TALK, TALK,TALK.
Jill Can not even put together a good campaign ad.
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Post by Hawkeye on Sept 12, 2008 7:18:23 GMT -5
A lot of people don't like Mitch, since he's the first governor in a long time to actually DO something while in office. Yes, he leased the toll road, but look at what that money has done and is doing. The interest on the money from that lease alone is producing more money per hour than any of us will make in 5 years..... I-69 extension is a problem left to him by the O'Bannon administration. The property tax deal sucks all around and the blame can NOT be placed soley on Mitch. I'm not sure how much of it he was responsible for- most of it is a product of the State Congress and local government. We have a budget surplus at the moment, something that O'Bannon decided to do away with as I recall. Mitch is the only choice for me for governor this fall. He is a Good Governor,Lots of people don't like him because he does not let things stay the same. Those who never do anything can claim fewer mistakes,but no progress. For some folks Change is always bad. |
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Post by bsutravis on Sept 12, 2008 8:40:12 GMT -5
Jill "Long-Shot" Thompson is going to get CRUSHED. If she really wanted to help Indiana she'd just donate all the remaining campaign money in her thin war-chest to a good cause and bow out now. Mitch is a HellO  uy....and I don't think you'll find anyone in this State's history that's done more for the overall welfare of Indiana. As far as Prop Taxes go, it's a heck of a lot better now than it was...... and when Mitch gets his 2nd term I am sure you're going to see a tax shift onto the taxation of "Services" which will go to either eliminate all property taxes, and/or shave the state sales tax in half or more. |
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Post by bsutravis on Sept 12, 2008 8:41:19 GMT -5
I'm just curious who the two people are that said they were voting for Long-Shot Thompson? I've yet to hear even a bad argument as to why anyone things she is a better candidate.
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Post by raporter on Sept 12, 2008 8:50:56 GMT -5
I would like to know why anyone would vote againts Mitch? Do you really want to be like Illi-noise, Michigan or Ohio? Please tell us what he has done that is so terrible. Yes we know he leased the toll road, and the downside of that is (?). He got Goose pond and reopened all the things the last administration closed on our reservoirs and state properties. He promised change and we got positive change not just the same old BS that we have been promised over and over. Change again? No thanks.
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Post by tenring on Sept 12, 2008 9:27:44 GMT -5
But why is he willing to spend an extra billion dollars to run I-69 on a new terrain route in order to get to Evansville 14 minutes sooner, and it is still going to cut the Goose Pond in half? Inquiring minds would like to know!
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Post by Russ Koon on Sept 12, 2008 10:24:37 GMT -5
Mitch, in spite of a few things I disagree strongly on.
His support for the sportsman, the gunowner, and those who would exercise their second amendment right to self defense has been very good, maybe even outstanding.
His financial management has been just as good.
And my last several trips to my license branch have been absolute pleasures, as was my visit to the state income tax office in Bloomington to resolve a problem caused by my own error. I used to take a magazine or a paperback novel to the BMV for even the most trivial matters. Not any more! Haven't even had the chance to sit down in my last three visits. That alone would probably have won my vote.
I still disagree on the toll road deal. To lease one toll road to a foreign firm which will raise the toll to make their profit because we aren't smart enough to do the same, then use the money for another toll road, doesn't make any sense at all, I don't care how much interest the state is making on the money. If it was worth all those milliions to the foreign firm and they will make money running it, then tthe state should have been able to make that money too. The only way I'll see that one as a smart move is if the foreign firm ends up losing money on the deal.
Running the I-69 extension over new terrain seems every bit as wrong, IMO. The population in this country has stabilized with the exception of the gain from immigration, and that source of growth is meeting more resistance all the time and should be diminished greatly soon. Modernized rail systems would be a much safer, cleaner, and more efficient means of moving freight, and properly designed and operated, also people. We are already a net food importing nation, and recreational land has skyrocketed in value in the last generation. Destroying agricultural ground and recreational ground to create thousands more acres to waste precious petroleum products by moving freight in an inefficient manner doesn't seem to be the best possible solution. Yes, the project was begun by the previous administration, but Mitch seems to be enthusiastic in continuing it. Can't imagine why.
The property tax mess underwent some improvement, and that is appreciated. However, his push to make that improvement "permanent" by the creation of a constitutional amendment seems to me like it would also guarantee that any further progress towards eliminating that tax altogether would be impeded in the process. It should be eliminated. It's already extremely inefficient when the total cost of assessing and collectig it is compared to the amount collected. Reducing the amount collected while retaining the expenses of assessing and collecting will only make it less efficient still. It may have been a good way to tax the early settlers, but it's time came and went long ago.
Then there's DST. I'm sorry, but playing like it's noon when the sun is halfway up into the morning sky and like sunset should normally occur at a quarter of ten in midsummer is silly! On Central Standard Time, the sun would be at it's highest point around noon, and midnight would be closest to the middle of the night where it belongs. If your school board or your employer doesn't like it that way, they should adjust their hours of operation to suit their needs, not force the entire citizenry of the state to play like it's two and sometimes three hours earlier than it really is. Set the state's clocks to the time zone we should be in according to the sun, toss DST so we can leave them alone year round, and if he wants a constitutional amendment to make that "permanent" I'll vote for him twice this time!
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Post by indianahick on Sept 12, 2008 13:26:26 GMT -5
I-69? Don't like it never have. I call it the NAFTA Highway. Because it starts just west of Toronto and end up in El Paso, Tx. Unfortunately it is Federal not state, ergo the I for interstate. Originated by Bill (Komrad Klinton) ER I mean Clinton. It being a hand me down, probably has lots of federal dollars with it too, someone is going to have to do it.
DST- Had it when I was a kid. As I remember I loved playing baseball and stuff outside until 9:30 PM other than the state being chopped up into several different time zones it does not bother me. Can do a lot of family type stuff later now, like playing catch with the grandkids or shooting hoops with same.
Think I will vote for Mitch.
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Post by Decatur on Sept 12, 2008 16:48:00 GMT -5
Mitch!
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Post by turkeyscout on Sept 12, 2008 19:09:37 GMT -5
hey decatur, and i thought i had your vote!!!...turkey scout
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Post by huntnprayn on Sept 12, 2008 20:04:47 GMT -5
I may not like the way that Mitch has accomplished some things, but he is a man that gets things done for this state.
If McCain gets in office, rumor has it that Mitch will be considered for a cabinet position.
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Post by Decatur on Sept 12, 2008 23:55:07 GMT -5
hey decatur, and i thought i had your vote!!!...turkey scout I have multiple personalities, so you still get one of my votes! |
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Post by jackryan on Sept 13, 2008 2:57:53 GMT -5
Jill "Long-Shot" Thompson is going to get CRUSHED. If she really wanted to help Indiana she'd just donate all the remaining campaign money in her thin war-chest to a good cause and bow out now. Mitch is a HellO uy....and I don't think you'll find anyone in this State's history that's done more for the overall welfare of Indiana. As far as Prop Taxes go, it's a heck of a lot better now than it was...... and when Mitch gets his 2nd term I am sure you're going to see a tax shift onto the taxation of "Services" which will go to either eliminate all property taxes, and/or shave the state sales tax in half or more. He will have to tax something new to pay the bills on his republican big government over spending. The dead beat has done nothing but create new levels of red tape and circles to run creditors around to avoid paying the state's debt. Who ever is in next term will be stuck cleaning up dead beat Mitch's unpaid bills one way or another. Many vendors who deal with the state now are requiring COD or even just refusing to even deliver at all until they are current with the debts the state already owes. It's easy to make your budget look good when you turn over inventory 4-5 times with out ever paying for it to begin with. Try picking up your license plate and tell them to just bill you and then refuse to pay it month after month. See how that flys with dead beat Mitch. |
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Post by bsutravis on Sept 13, 2008 3:29:33 GMT -5
That's a bunch of BS Jack...... Indiana has paid off debts left behind for YEARS from previous administrations. Mitch is known as "The Blade" for all his cutting of spending. Did you not hear all the state agencies whine and moan when he took over as Gov and they had to REDUCE their agency spending?  ? What about the school systems that were paid after years of the state not paying them? And you mention creditors? Why would Standard & Poors issue Indiana it's highest AAA rating if we were so doom and gloom as you CLAIM? I'd like to see some examples of this crap that you posted...... I've seen some junk posts before, but yours Jack takes the cake! |
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Post by cambygsp on Sept 13, 2008 6:44:27 GMT -5
Jill "Long-Shot" Thompson is going to get CRUSHED. If she really wanted to help Indiana she'd just donate all the remaining campaign money in her thin war-chest to a good cause and bow out now. Mitch is a HellO uy....and I don't think you'll find anyone in this State's history that's done more for the overall welfare of Indiana. As far as Prop Taxes go, it's a heck of a lot better now than it was...... and when Mitch gets his 2nd term I am sure you're going to see a tax shift onto the taxation of "Services" which will go to either eliminate all property taxes, and/or shave the state sales tax in half or more. He will have to tax something new to pay the bills on his republican big government over spending. The dead beat has done nothing but create new levels of red tape and circles to run creditors around to avoid paying the state's debt. Who ever is in next term will be stuck cleaning up dead beat Mitch's unpaid bills one way or another. Many vendors who deal with the state now are requiring COD or even just refusing to even deliver at all until they are current with the debts the state already owes. It's easy to make your budget look good when you turn over inventory 4-5 times with out ever paying for it to begin with. Try picking up your license plate and tell them to just bill you and then refuse to pay it month after month. See how that flys with dead beat Mitch. Hmmm.................. We recently did a job at the Plainfield Correctional Facility, we got paid in less than 14 days! |
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Post by drgreyhound on Sept 13, 2008 8:04:31 GMT -5
People don't like Mitch because he made unpopular cutbacks (like in social services spending) to balance the budget and come back after apparent overspending by past liberal administrations. Now the Indiana government seems to be operating in a much more fiscally responsible way, and that makes me happy. I'd rather have a governor that does the right thing rather than the easy or popular thing.
By the way--I haven't seen Jill Long-Shot Thompson present anything of substance...why am I not surprised?
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Post by huntnprayn on Sept 13, 2008 9:03:13 GMT -5
Here here, bsutravis and greyhound. You guys nailed it. Like I posted before, rumor has it that he is being considered for McCain's cabinet if he wins.....why?.........because of his fiscal responsibility. People are taking notice. People want to complain about the toll road. Get over it. He leased it for a set amount of money......money that we didn't have.....money that would not be made for the duration of the lease. ANNNNNNDDDD, the state gets a percentage of what is made on it. Again, like bsutravis stated about the school systems......it's about time that the liberal over spending and broken promises stoped.
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? What about the school systems that were paid after years of the state not paying them?