idhmc
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Post by idhmc on Oct 7, 2005 0:19:41 GMT -5
Of the farmer polled. Maybe they just polled alot of the farmers who havent done it yet. Im sure they are now thinking about it after the poll though. LOL Ive seen what some Outfitters have done to quality area's with their leasing of grounds. Not all of them now but some. Local guys who have gone into business for themselves, that are still close to home, work hard to keep a quality to the land for their clients. Big city outfitters lease up quality land and rape it for its resorce and leave it after there is no ability to rebound for the price of the yearly lease. Some people work their butts off to produce an area and lose it to a higher bidder that come in and rape the resource. If everyone who did lease tried their best to produce a quality herd, as well as land owners, we would never have to listen about changing rules year after year. We could all just go out and enjoy the fruits of our labors. And when the fruits are high enough, we can share our area's so others can enjoy the outdoors and hunting. Hunting is Ugly. Hunters are becoming ugly. The Traditions of hunting are becoming ugly. As these are become ugly, non hunters will see our actions and deside our fate. Being creative to better hunting and the hunting image and tradition??? Leasing will not do this. Everything is about $$$ today and ruins everything in the process. No one does anything for the pure love of it.
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Post by mbogo on Oct 7, 2005 6:23:35 GMT -5
It is far better that land be leased for hunting rights than for that land to become a strip mall or subdivision. Say what you will about leasing but I'd rather have to pay to hunt somewhere than to have no land to hunt at all.
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Post by cambygsp on Oct 7, 2005 6:42:50 GMT -5
Hunting leases are like taxes.........most don't like it but we must learn to live with it.
Leasing DIRECT from a landowner is the way to go though.
In fact it would be in your best interest to find a landowner and work your own deal. Lease brokering businesses are popping up everywhere......these lands are taken out of available hunting while they wait for a hunter with deep pockets. In most cases, once the landowner has signed up with a broker...all deals must be worked with the broker.
I know of a case where the landowner received $1000.00 for a annual hunting lease on his 375 acre. Yet the hunters that went in on the lease paid the broker $3000.00 for the annual lease.
But if you don't want to or have the time to work your own deal....I guess brokers have the product you want.
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Post by drs on Oct 7, 2005 7:19:37 GMT -5
As of last year all my hunting spots went belly up and I had nothing. I was desperate and 2 days before the opening day of gun I leased a spot without seeing it so my kids could have a spot to hunt. I'm in the same boat this year. I even went and looked at couple peices but I've decided I will not lease because I don't support it. I cannot believe the land that is going this way in my area. I know I'm only one but I will give up hunting before I lease. Oh and isn't funny you see advertisements "300 acres for lease @ $10 an acre" and when you look at it's 285 acres of harvested crop land and 15 acres of woods. What kind of crap is that? How many people are going to hunt in the middle of that havested field? I live less than 3 miles from HNF land and have never hunted it and never will because of safety reasons. I was lucky enough to be granted today a 5 acre parcel in Jennings county. It's not big but it's a funnel along a river. I will set my kids up a spot there. Most likely I will not hunt this year (sorry woodmaster) but as long as I can keep my kids in it I'll be happy enough. I've told my son who will start college next year that once he gets out his first priority should be to buy himself some land. Actually now that I think of it I do have 1 day hunting at Crane. So hopefully that'll be my lucky day Hoosier Hunter, I agree with your post, and sincerely hope you bag your Deer at Crane. I have an uneasy feeling we are all seeing our beloved Sport of Hunting dying. After reading, a few post here, on this fine forum; I am getting the impression that the Government (State & Federal) are part of the reasons behind the lack of huntable land available. Their taxing policies, land use, and zoning laws are all playing a huge role, not to mention Urban Spraw gobbling up all the usable land.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2005 9:37:47 GMT -5
Leasing DIRECT from a landowner is the way to go though. I agree with that Camby. A private deal between a hunter and the landowner is the way to go. It takes the big business out of it. It is a way for a landowner to make some money to pay his taxes on the place. I have leased the place we hunt now for 7 years. It has been the same deal each year. I get total access year round to the farm (which is no longer farmed except for hay), including fishing rights in the 3 acre pond. In return, I help keep an eye on the place for the landowner, who lives down the road from our hunting area. Before we started leasing it, they had all kinds of people trespassing. Now we have taken care of that problem for the landowner. They even let us keep a camper on the place year round so we can always stay there any time, and we can store our stands and blinds in the old barn. It is a sweet situation that I hope we can keep going indefinitely! That being said, I do see potential trouble with the big business lease brokering that is getting bigger and bigger. Too many middle men will spoil things for the consumer every time!
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